Hiring : What do you do?

[Sylvene]

Just out of pure curiosity... What would you do?

You have an ad in the local paper and instructions are to email their resume to a specific email address or fax/mail it in. You also request "No calls"

Would you apply a black mark for "inability to follow directions" to applicants who...

1. Use your online support form to apply for the job - i.e. Customer Service has to forward the email to HR - if they feel like it. LoL...
2. E-Mail it to the Sales email the found on your site - sales team has to forward the email to HR - if they feel like it.
3. Calls.

?

[EricStratton]

Definitely. But I'm a stickler for directions like that. I'm currently in the job hunting process and I go over applications and whatnot w/ a fine toothed comb to make sure I'm doing it all right.

Now, that doesn't mean I would definitely not ask them in for an interview if their resume was good enough. I would just start them off w/ a black mark already.

[Erudite]

You have an ad in the local paper and instructions are to email their resume to a specific email address or fax/mail it in. You also request "No calls"

Would you apply a black mark for "inability to follow directions" to applicants who...

1. Use your online support form to apply for the job - i.e. Customer Service has to forward the email to HR - if they feel like it. LoL...
2. E-Mail it to the Sales email the found on your site - sales team has to forward the email to HR - if they feel like it.
3. Calls.

?

Dunno. Are they local? Are you sure they read your ad, as opposed to being told by somebody, "Hey, I saw in the paper that X company is hiring for Y position - you should send in your resume for that."

Yeah, they should probably call to determine who and where it should be sent, but I probably wouldn't get bent out of shape about it if there seemed to be a reasonable explanation.

[Shiz]

Black mark'em and the first question in the interview should be "why didn't you follow the simple directions to apply for this job?"

[DirkDarkBlade]

I wouldn't discount them immediately, but I look at it that I'm trying to find the best person for the company (and as mentioned before they may not have actually seen the ad/instructions).

Now if it came down to two or three people with the same qualifications for the job and one of them had emailed to everyone/called etc I might factor it in the final decision.

Fortuneatly I've not been in that position.

[deepfred]

depends entirely on what level of position you're hiring. if you're hiring a designer for example, you could actually be impressed by their inability to follow directions =p might be a mark of their creative ability.

on that note, my experience in hiring is hiring designers, so i want to know three things:

- examples of their work (which, if acceptable, will proceed to the next step);
- person to person to make sure they have the ability to communicate in both directions (which, if acceptable, will proceed to the next step);
- test their ability to work, usually by engaging them short term to see how well they work, which is usually done on a short term contract basis.

but they could send their resume to me by carrier pigeon on a napkin written in blood and it wouldn't discount them from step 1 above.

[jefspendar]

/em sighs

agree it would depend on the position you're trying to fill.

jef

[Sylvene]

/em sighs

agree it would depend on the position you're trying to fill.

jef


Hehe. Very true. Very true. It would. I've never had the occassion to hire designers. Not following directions or "creativity" when soldering components to a PCB is un-desired when hiring service / production technicians.

Oh... oh... speaking of "creativity" we had an intern one summer who decided that soldering 10 0.2mH capacitors in a row was foolish when he could just use a 2.0mH capacitor in it's place. Same intern decided to use alternating yellow and black ones on another... Needless to say... he did not last long. The Manufacturing Manager had a horrendous "Damaged Goods Log" that summer.

[DirkDarkBlade]

Hehe. Very true. Very true. It would. I've never had the occassion to hire designers. Not following directions or "creativity" when soldering components to a PCB is un-desired when hiring service / production technicians.

Oh... oh... speaking of "creativity" we had an intern one summer who decided that soldering 10 0.2mH capacitors in a row was foolish when he could just use a 2.0mH capacitor in it's place. Same intern decided to use alternating yellow and black ones on another... Needless to say... he did not last long. The Manufacturing Manager had a horrendous "Damaged Goods Log" that summer.
Whats wrong with alternating yellow and black? That sounds like it would be pretty.

I could see how an intern changing the design would be an issue...I would understand asking "Hey why don't we just use a 2.0mH capacitor" but to just change the design.:frown1:

[Greebo]

If I remember my BdoubleE (Basic Electricity and Electronics), capacitors are used not just to store energy but also to remove noise and stablize signal strengths. An array of 0.2mH capacitors acts like a cleaner on a signal to ensure a good, solid, noiseless 0.2mhH signal. One 2.0mH capacitor, on the other hand, would not stabilize the signal and would possibly end up sending a signal frequency so high as to damage downstream components. (I may be wrong about that bit though.)

The doing it all in yellow and black is a neat idea though. You know you could maybe do "circuit board art" using various components and a nicely etched board...hmmmm...

[Sylvene]

Greebo is exactly right. :)

Hehe... the black and yellow capacitors were the same value but of different quality and make (materials), so used for different applications at different parts of the design.

[Greebo]

For a minute I was thinking that capacitors were color coded for their rating but thats resistors not capicators...

[Tulenyre]

I ignore those little things for the most part, as someone said they could of found the job some other way (ex: heard about it from a friend). I would keep it on your mind though so if the resume looks questionable (not bad, but not good either) and they did it wrong I'd drop the resume and move on.

[Raveneye]

This thread made me realize I would never hire someone from our group. We spend entirely too much work time goofing off on the internet! Now if you'll excuse me, I have YouTube videos to watch...

[noptov52]

What are you talking about RE? Posting on the boards and watching YouTube videos enhances our productivity. I'm sure MIT is planning to do a study on us any day now.