Group 3, Discussion 2 thread

[Sagar]

Discussions, in this format, take a long time.

I am trying to come up with ways to streamline it. I can anticipate some questions and try to answer them up front but I many times I have information that is available only if you specifically ask for it.

In this last post, I put that the guy paused to answer your last questions, then left. If you have questions, post them and he will answer.. but then the encounter is over and you can post your next actions as well.

We'll see how this goes. I'll trying giving you information you are generally privvy to. You can then ask questions and / or use skills (insight, diplomacy, intimidation, etc.), and I'll give you the results.

[Lycos]

I am definitely interested in the Defiance assignment. What about you guys?

[Shiz]

Yuppers, but 4 weeks is a lot of time to kill and I don't want to spend it egg hunting.

[DinbinFanfoom]

Brun is always interested in exploring the world, meeting new people, and smacking them around.

[Sagar]

Yuppers, but 4 weeks is a lot of time to kill and I don't want to spend it egg hunting.

Not to worry.. The hard part will be getting you guys ready for the assignment...

[Lycos]

I agree. I don't want to spend 4 weeks waiting around either. There has to be some evil to destroy in the mean time. :D

[DinbinFanfoom]

I read "getting us ready" as "levelling up a bit". That said, I'm up for anything that keeps us as active as possible in that four week period. Eggs, spores, snot, whatever needs huntin'.

[EricStratton]

We could always go looking for hippogriff eggs. :lowlol:

[Lycos]

On my priority list, going after hippogriff eggs is right below getting a manicure. :D

[EricStratton]

If we've got 4 weeks to kill, you'll have time to get your nails done *and* look for the eggs. Yay!

[Sagar]

Don't worry. There are two significant adventures and perhaps a dragon hunt between now and then.

And who knows what else might pop up.

[Lycos]

Don't forget to have our Hell raid soon! :mrgreen:

[Shiz]

Trask vs Pit Fiend! BE THERE!

[EricStratton]

And? :p
Hehe, you didn't have to add the ":p". I knew you were kidding. I just had no witty come back. All brain cycles were going to trying to figure out how to meta program a mixture of Rails named_scopes and Enumerable#group_by. Failing that I then tried to figure out how to resort an ActiveSupport::OrderedHash. Sigh.

[Shiz]

Money updated on the character sheets.

[Lycos]

Sounds like we're going to get some Scooby Doo action! The local haunted house.

"Hey, it's old man Winters!"

"Yeah, and I would've gotten away with it too if it weren't for you meddling kids!"

Now, is Dinbin's character going to be Velma or Daphne???

[DinbinFanfoom]

Now, is Dinbin's character going to be Velma or Daphne???Not smart enough to be Velma. Not charismatic enough to be Daphne.

[Lycos]

Not smart enough to be Velma. Not charismatic enough to be Daphne.

We can send you out for a makeover.

[Lycos]

Hehe, you didn't have to add the ":p". I knew you were kidding. I just had no witty come back.

No. No. No need to make excuses. Admit it. You were pissed off and plotting my demise until you saw that ":p". :lowlol:

[EricStratton]

No. No. No need to make excuses. Admit it. You were pissed off and plotting my demise until you saw that ":p". :lowlol:
Nah, you're fine. You're coming to game day right? :twisted:

[Lycos]

Nah, you're fine. You're coming to game day right? :twisted:

Me? No. I'm not going. :eek:

[EricStratton]

Me? No. I'm not going. :eek:
Hmm. I guess that's ok. I can come to you. :sissyfight:

[Sagar]

Attached is a rough sketch of the Barony of Diert.

It is a wedge-shaped piece of land on the far western edge of civilized land.

To the west lie unexplored and dangerous mountains. North and east, though the upper pass, lies a desert. East along the trade road are other lands.

In the Barony, Humans, elves, half-elves, dwarves and halflings flourish.
Humans can be found anywhere. Half-elves, though not numerous, can also be found anywhere. Elves tend to be near the Verity Forest. Halflings favor the areas near Corner and Bentonville. Dwarves like the mountainous areas around Connemara. Eldarin are fairly rare in Diert. That one won the Contest is a source of much speculation...

[DinbinFanfoom]

Nice!

[Shiz]

Where is Defiance? NW?

[Lycos]

Eladrin are fairly rare in Diert. That one won the Contest is a source of much speculation...

Here.

[Zyzzyx]

I'm waiting for Fandango to tell the 'old man' how snazzy he was with all his flourishing attacks. ;)

[Sagar]

Where is Defiance? NW?

Generally west and a bit north of Bracken.

[EricStratton]

Eldarin are fairly rare in Diert. That one won the Contest is a source of much speculation...
He's also awfully hunky.

[Lycos]

I'm waiting for Fandango to tell the 'old man' how snazzy he was with all his flourishing attacks. ;)

Don't get him started. Please! :D

[Asharad]

Sadly, I was away this afternoon and couldn't engage the old man. do we know his name? Did any of my clever companions ask him that? or did we leave our artifacts of astounding power with some dude without so much as a laundry ticket?

[Lycos]

Sadly, I was away this afternoon and couldn't engage the old man. do we know his name? Did any of my clever companions ask him that? or did we leave our artifacts of astounding power with some dude without so much as a laundry ticket?

Yeah, it's ummmm... Bob. Yeah. :roll:

Did we get it Sagar? I would assume that we would do that. If not Fandango would've piped up.

[Sagar]

No one asked.

[Asharad]

We will never see those candle snuffer things again. They are probably worth the entire cost of the town we are in...he's skipped out for sure.

Don't worry, we'll have no trouble finding him. We'll just go village to village asking is anyone has seen an old dude.

[GravenStone]

Well, I made my saving throw versus buying the 4th ed PHB today. It was a near thing, damn you all. So I went out and bought Spore instead. :roll:

[Lycos]

Well, I made my saving throw versus buying the 4th ed PHB today. It was a near thing, damn you all. So I went out and bought Spore instead. :roll:

Sorry, we'll try harder. :D

[Lycos]

We will never see those candle snuffer things again. They are probably worth the entire cost of the town we are in...he's skipped out for sure.

Don't worry, we'll have no trouble finding him. We'll just go village to village asking is anyone has seen an old dude.

And I thought I was the paranoid one.

[EricStratton]

Nice try, Ash.

GS, if you *really* want it, I'm sure a link to an electronic copy can find its way to you.

Can we call Scorpio (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvWNbPb_8ps) "Hank"?

[Shiz]

I am away from a PC all day today. Amaril will puppet Trask if a fight begins.

[Lycos]

Speaking of which, I will be away from my computer starting Friday after work until Sunday night (late probably until around 9 - 10 PM).

[Lycos]

Guys,

Let me mention something here. Please don't jump down my throat because everyone says "I'll let the paladin speak." As I've joked with ES, I am not my character. I don't have 18 STR, 18 CHA or even half the intelligence. Plus, while I'm at work I am doing all of this in between compiling software, waiting on email responses, etc. I don't have the time to spend crafting witty response and careful rhetoric. I try, but then again, I have people coming by my cube and like to see if I'm working or not, so that effects my time spent in posting responses. So bare with me, if I say something wrong please interrupt the conversation if possible. I'll apologize now for my many future mistakes.

[Sagar]

Guys,

Let me mention something here. Please don't jump down my throat because everyone says "I'll let the paladin speak." As I've joked with ES, I am not my character. I don't have 18 STR, 18 CHA or even half the intelligence. Plus, while I'm at work I am doing all of this in between compiling software, waiting on email responses, etc. I don't have the time to spend crafting witty response and careful rhetoric. I try, but then again, I have people coming by my cube and like to see if I'm working or not, so that effects my time spent in posting responses. So bare with me, if I say something wrong please interrupt the conversation if possible. I'll apologize now for my many future mistakes.

I understand completely.

But we was just funnin. ...

Does this mean we can pick no more? :lowsad:


Oh, and FYI, you read this guy correctly. He isn't gonna cause any trouble. And if you say something you want to take back, just hollar MULLIGAN, and I'll fix it. I'll assume you just went over the conversation in your head and opted not to say that. :lowrazz:

[Lycos]

Yeah, I'd like to take back this question...

What do you make of the situation between Lord Felstaff and the Baron?

[Lycos]

Does this mean we can pick no more? :lowsad:

Yeah, you can pick. :mrgreen: I pick. :mrgreen:

[Sagar]

Yeah, I'd like to take back this question...
What question... :lowrazz:

[Asharad]

YOU SUCK! YOU SUCKITY SUCK SUCK! YOUR'RE THE MAYOR OF SUCKVILLE, POPULATION- YOU!

[Lycos]

YOU SUCK! YOU SUCKITY SUCK SUCK! YOUR'RE THE MAYOR OF SUCKVILLE, POPULATION- YOU!

I thought it was SUCKSBURG??? I'm so confused. :~

:mrgreen:

Oh and Ash! [halibut]

[Asharad]

GO BACK TO SUCK ISLAND, CAPTAIN BLUESUCK!

[EricStratton]

What are we hating so much and why?

[Asharad]

I dunno.

[Lycos]

GO BACK TO SUCK ISLAND, CAPTAIN BLUESUCK!

That's it!!! :sissyfight:

[Sagar]

It never occurred to me to make the house a base of operations.

All I can say is..

BRILLIANT! :pint:

[Asharad]

As I've joked with ES, I am not my character.

I totally suck at roleplaying, I've discovered.

Every single one of my characters in every game I've ever played ends up being me in armor, or me with a pet dragon, or me as a member of the space marines or something.

I lack the discipline to be a stoic warrior, or a scholarly wizard or whatever.

So I totally AM my character. for which I apologize.

[Zyzzyx]

BRILLIANT! :pint:
OOoooh... and convert it to a brewhouse as well. Brun would prolly like that.

Carry her own 'healing potions'. ;)

[EricStratton]

Ash, I've noticed. :lowlol:

Next one of these we play, you should play an introverted fighter. Just don't say anything. See how long you can go. ;)

[Lycos]

I totally suck at roleplaying, I've discovered.

Every single one of my characters in every game I've ever played ends up being me in armor, or me with a pet dragon, or me as a member of the space marines or something.

I lack the discipline to be a stoic warrior, or a scholarly wizard or whatever.

So I totally AM my character. for which I apologize.

We'll lower your stats as appropriate then. ;)

I think all of my characters have been me to a degree. The best I can do is try to put myself in their shoes and make decisions as they would think best.

[Asharad]

Ash, I've noticed. :lowlol:

Next one of these we play, you should play an introverted fighter. Just don't say anything. See how long you can go. ;)


I swear to christ I am not making this up, I originally was going to have Fandango be mute.

It's an idea I've had in a couple of online games, thinking it would be interesting (but not practical) to use only emotes.

I totally couldn't even start to do it!

[DinbinFanfoom]

I think we've got a pretty good mix actually. Fandango is great for levity and Trask actually makes sure we accomplish something in the process. I personally can RP all over the board, but tend to play chars not much like me. :mrgreen:

[EricStratton]

I swear to christ I am not making this up, I originally was going to have Fandango be mute.

It's an idea I've had in a couple of online games, thinking it would be interesting (but not practical) to use only emotes.

I totally couldn't even start to do it!
That would be great!

/Fandango's eyes get very very big. He alternates between waving his hands frantically trying to get the party's attention and pointing to the undead wolf he's just spotted around the corner.

Internally he wonders "why am I the scout again?"

[Asharad]

Baladir is like our daddy and Trask is our mommy.

[DinbinFanfoom]

I swear to christ I am not making this up, I originally was going to have Fandango be mute.
It's an idea I've had in a couple of online games, thinking it would be interesting (but not practical) to use only emotes.
Rogue is the perfect fit for you, then. Heh.

In EQ1 I actually was able to name my gnome warrior "Model" and outfit him (twink) with silvery armour/helm. I then set up a bunch of macro's/emotes to the effect of "/em sits down with a clank."

My plan was to level to 20 and give him the surname "LXIX" or something.

[Lycos]

Baladir is like our daddy and Trask is our mommy.

*confused look on his face*

*opens his mouth*

*shuts his mouth*

<pause>

*opens his mouth*

*shuts his mouth*

*shrug* :roll: :D

[DinbinFanfoom]

And Lycos is the Oprah Winfrey of our group. He's a good listener.

[Asharad]

I like the name "Young Heroes."

it's not real imaginative, but it makes us sound like the subject of a David Bowie song, which is awesome.

[DinbinFanfoom]

I like the name "Young Heroes."
it's not real imaginative, but it makes us sound like the subject of a David Bowie song, which is awesome.I keep getting the sneaking suspicion we're being set up for something, with all the awesomeness of the way this town is treating us. We kill a few orcs, wolves and wax a pocket-wight and we're uber? The valour bar must be pretty low in this town!

[EricStratton]

I keep getting the sneaking suspicion we're being set up for something, with all the awesomeness of the way this town is treating us. We kill a few orcs, wolves and wax a pocket-wight and we're uber? The valour bar must be pretty low in this town!
It's b/c you've an Eladrin w/ you. We're very rare and insanely popular.

[DinbinFanfoom]

It's b/c you've an Eladrin w/ you. We're very rare and insanely popular.Ah, OK. I thought it was Dad... er... Baladir's paranoia rubbing off on me! :lowrazz:

[Lycos]

Ah, OK. I thought it was Dad... er... Baladir's paranoia rubbing off on me! :lowrazz:

It will. And it's not my doing. It's the GM's doing. Once you get screwed a few times (not in a good way). You'll be on the same page as I am. :D

[Lycos]

I like the name "Young Heroes."

Reminds me of "Young Guns". I loved that movie! :D

[Lycos]

And Lycos is the Oprah Winfrey of our group. He's a good listener.

Just see if you ever make it onto my book list!!!

hmpf!

[Sagar]

I think of it more like the American Idol effect.

You just won a Barony wide uber-contest and you're the talk of the town for now..

In a few months, though, your 15 minutes of fame will be over and you'll need some exploits to fall back.

Honestly, if the Baron wasn't in town and you had not just won the contest, they would never have considered letting you take the house.

[EricStratton]

Honestly, if the Baron wasn't in town and you had not just won the contest, they would never have considered letting you take the house.
Good thing the Baron came then or else we'd have *taken* the house. :flex:

[Sagar]

There are at least 3 people in town who could single handedly take out your whole group.. don't get TOO cocky :p

[Lycos]

There are at least 3 people in town who could single handedly take out your whole group.. don't get TOO cocky :p

Starting with the Mayor's wife who is a level 20 rogue who has poisoned us with those drinks we drank and is deciding whether or not to give us the antidote. :mrgreen:

[Sagar]

For the antidote, you must bring her a ...shrubbery!

[DinbinFanfoom]

For the antidote, you must bring her a ...shrubbery!*dramatic chord*

[EricStratton]

I believe we get some XP for the DM throwing out a MP reference before any players do.

[Sagar]

Or lose it for making the DM be the first...

[EricStratton]

No no. Definitely not. We are correct to not reference MP. Ever really. Ever ever.

[Aananla]

RIGHT! The MP barrier has been broken! Release the puns!!

[Lycos]

Ok, I have a question for Sagar. How powerful are vampires in your world. Let's say on a scale from 1 to 10 in the undead world, where do they rank?

Some thoughts of mine...

I think we should ask Scorpio for some vampire advice or use our knowledge skills to come up with a vampire kit. Overall, I'm thinking, garlic, some wooden stakes (2 per person), and some large vials of holy water.

If it's not a vampire and a lower form of undead, cool. We can handle that, but remember we were lucky with the wight. We might not be as lucky with this guy.

Plus I think those shrieks are going to be fear causing, so any resistance to fear would be handy.

[Lycos]

Oh, and what is our chance of inventing the first holy water super soaker??? :mrgreen: Can we have a shot at it? 1 in 100?

[Sagar]

In the morning, before leaving, you talk to Scorpio. He has the makings of a classic vampire kit for 10g. He says he is no expert on vampires, but he's heard they come in many levels.. from dangerous grunts to truly bad ass mofo's.

And no chance on the super soaker. You don't have access to the required raw materials.

[Lycos]

In the morning, before leaving, you talk to Scorpio. He has the makings of a classic vampire kit for 10g. He says he is no expert on vampires, but he's heard they come in many levels.. from dangerous grunts to truly bad ass mofo's.

Cool, I'll buy it.

And no chance on the super soaker. You don't have access to the required raw materials.

Damn! :mrgreen:

[Sagar]

Since Play-by-post games move so much more slowly, I've been toying with the idea of increasing exp. The DM guide suggests up to doubling exp for slower moving games.

I was pondering a 50-100% bonus. What do you think?

[Asharad]

I don't have a lot of experience so I don't really know either way.

So far it seems reasonable, we've been on- essentially- one adventure and gained a level.

[EricStratton]

Up to you, Sagar. I'm having fun so far. Leveling is always fun but, like Ash said, we've had one adventure and gained a level. I don't have a problem w/ that.

[Lycos]

Well, I know the level gains will slow down quite a bit. I would not have a problem with accelerated xp. I wouldn't mind forgetting about xp and you tell us when we level. I'm really not a stickler for the books, so I won't be pointing out pages and demanding that we lose levels because the rules say we should be two levels lower.

I've also been in campaigns where we've started out at higher levels to match the type of game that the DM wanted us to be in.

[Shiz]

Levelling in itself doesn't add fun other than the fact that 4E is new so levelling in 4E is new. That said, you could boost encounter exp a bit and then supplement with "story" exp. Double is overkill, though. Maybe +25% at the most.

[DinbinFanfoom]

Yeah, I'm fine with XP pacing so far, but ask me again in 10 levels, if we survive that long. :twisted:

[Sagar]

The normal rule of thumb is 10 encounters = 1 level with significant traps = 1 encounter. I figure level 1 took about 8 encounters - though one could argue that the first battle was almost 2 and the last battle was close to two.

I think I'll aim for a level every 6-8 significant encounters. Taking out a couple rats or a vampire minion wouldn't really count as significant to you guys.

[Lycos]

Taking out a couple rats or a vampire minion wouldn't really count as significant to you guys.

No, we want to make it perfectly clear that all minions and monsters are important to us, and we won't treat them any different than if they were a balrog or a little rat. Equal treatment is our motto.

You all die!! :twisted:

[GravenStone]

You obviously ran with the wrong gaming crowd. We took over anything not nailed down as lairs.

Clean out the bad guy's underground lair in V&V? New base!

Clear out the old alchemist's abode (replete with disarming the giant catapult ball scribed with an 30' radius effect Death sigil that had crashed through the roof into the basement) in RM? New base!

Clear out the dragon's lair and steal his horde out from under out paladin's corrupt church? New ... well no, that actually brought about a schism and the attempted excommunication of said paladin. Fortunately he was really tight with his god and the church sort of came out on the losing end of that argument.
:flex:

[EricStratton]

I know I just kicked started the party but I'm doing to be a **** and go afk for a couple hours. I don't have a problem w/ someone else playing me until I'm able to get back online (no later than 4-5pm I hope).

[Lycos]

No problem.

We can go as far as we can without you and when we run into a battle, we can pause at that point. How's that?

[Asharad]

Minor point, our stats are still off in the pop up windows on the characters.

[Sagar]

Minor point, our stats are still off in the pop up windows on the characters.
yeah yeah yeah.. I saw that.

I'll have to fix those later.

[Lycos]

Minor point, our stats are still off in the pop up windows on the characters.

Does it bother you that the map is calling you weak?

/map taunt :mrgreen:

[DinbinFanfoom]

I've added tiles for stairs (n/s, e/w) and a door (closed) but it's not a top view tile... all are flat, as our chars are. I'll have to work on some others for narrow-width walls, but that will make it impossible for chars to get CLOSE to the walls...

[Sagar]

The new tiles don't show up on the map screen drop down box.

[DinbinFanfoom]

Oops! Wrong DB. Try now. I replaced one door already.

[DinbinFanfoom]

I'm not sure if I'll be able to create "skinny" walls or not... to do so I'd have to create all the possible wall configurations (about 20) for each floor type, which is a pain. We'll have to deal with 5' thick walls for now.

[Shiz]

Skinny walls dont matter.

[DinbinFanfoom]

I guess I should have made the limitations known to Sagar before he engineered his house. Sorry!

[Asharad]

I would like to upload the following to the data base, to use as my guy.

And yes, fandango has a mohawk.

Also, if you could list places I can steal appropriate sprites and upload a zipped file of the ones we are using, I'll occasionally make new ones.

[Sagar]

I figured we could make standard wooden floors and the walls would just use the floor background with a line running N/S or E/W.

It's working ok as is, though.

[DinbinFanfoom]

Asharad:

I've uploaded "rogue-mohawk1.gif" and made it live. In addition to uploading the file, that actually entails making an entry in a DB table on the server, so it isn't something that can be done by someone simply uploading sprites. So they'll likely have to continue to go through me until I code some sort of import process.

Sagar:

The problem is that the floor itself would be the background and the "line" would be some sort of foreground... which is where the characters are. So the problem is this: 1) you could place a "wall" as an item/npc/character on top of a background (the floor) but no other sprite could occupy the space or 2) you could make the wall part of the background (part of the floor sprite) but that would mean creating an iteration of the tile for every possible floor/wall combination.

That said, I'm sure I can create some wooden floors right away.

Edit: Four basic wooden floors are in now. I'll get working on some rudimentary walls.

[Asharad]

That's cool dinbin, whatever works.

And like I said, if you've got a chance to zip and upload the sprite library or post where you steal them from, I'd like to occasionally add some, if thats cool.

[DinbinFanfoom]

I've been working off this sheet for avatars.

[Lycos]

Just a reminder that I am going to be away from my computer this weekend. Tonight I will be driving until 11 or 12 AM. I will probably be bored to tears tomorrow, so I might be able to sneak some time on the computer without a bunch of kids asking me a ton of questions. Sunday is definitely out for me until we get home which will be late.

[Zyzzyx]

Sounds like a long trip to just turn around and come right back home. What kind of torture are you putting yourself through?

[Shiz]

I am home alone all weekend. I am happy to steer Baladir in combat if that happens but I cannot do him justice in conversation!

[Lycos]

Sounds like a long trip to just turn around and come right back home. What kind of torture are you putting yourself through?

Torture with the In-Laws and then a 5 mile walk on Sunday. I don't mind the walk. :D

[Lycos]

I am home alone all weekend. I am happy to steer Baladir in combat if that happens but I cannot do him justice in conversation!

:lowlol: Ok, you can guide him through the combat rather than slow everyone down on my account. :mrgreen:

[Lycos]

I'm back.

[Sagar]

Oh, by the way, we'll be leaving for Disney Friday afternoon and won't be back until Tuesday.

I'm pretty sure I won't be running the game then while we're there :p

[Lycos]

I'm pretty sure I won't be running the game then while we're there :p

*Does his best early Darth Vader imitation*

NNNNNnnnnoooooooooooooooooo! ;)

Have fun! :mrgreen:

[Zyzzyx]

Ya guys paranoid much? :P

I've been waiting for Brun to walk up to the mushrooms, look at 'em, decide they're just like the ones back in the woods, and take a big bite of one. :twisted:

[DinbinFanfoom]

Is Brun smart enough to discover penicillin?

[Sagar]

Is Brun smart enough to discover penicillin?

Since penicillin is a mold, not a mushroom.. probably not.

[EricStratton]

If Brun was a *real* woman, she would. But I guess she's just an elf rogue in disguise. :p

[DinbinFanfoom]

She could hop on a few of them and look for a turtle to kick.

[DinbinFanfoom]

"Don't look now, but we appear to be being followed by... a fireplace..." Brun hisses. :D

[Sagar]

"Don't look now, but we appear to be being followed by... a fireplace..." Brun hisses. :D
Fireplaces LOVE chimney-chicks...

[Sagar]

Repeat Holy Strike again.

I thought a natural 20 gave me something like triple damage or something like that??? No?
It gives max damage. If a high crit weapon is used, it does max damage + W. If the weapon is magical it does an addition d6 or d8 for each + of the weapon.

[Lycos]

How come I got this the last time on a natural 20? Just asking...


Being a true son of Pelor, though, he rallies and hurls all of his might into a wicked attack (natural 20 you bastard :p) and cleaves completely through the zombie (34 damage, crit = instakill with zombies)

I'm just trying to figure out how this works.

[Sagar]

How come I got this the last time on a natural 20? Just asking...



I'm just trying to figure out how this works.

That was Paladin's Judgement (3d10+4 damage)

[Lycos]

That was Paladin's Judgement (3d10+4 damage)

Oh, that's right. Sorry. :*

That's where the triple damage came from. :roll:

[Lycos]

I have a question on my holy symbol. Besides the daily power that it has, does it help me in any other way?

[Shiz]

+1 ATK and damage when you use a "implement" labelled power, of which you have none currently. Look at Trask's pdf #2. You will see that most of his powers are labelled "implement" among other things.

You can look forward to getting a Holy Avenger. It serves as a weapon and holy symbol in one!

[Sagar]

There was one level 2 power that was "implement". I don't remember which it was, though, nor whether you took it.

[Lycos]

There was one level 2 power that was "implement". I don't remember which it was, though, nor whether you took it.

Yeah, no, I didn't take it.

[Sagar]

"I would argue it should go to Baladir. He is one of our front line pair and does not possess a combat related magical item as of yet."
Not my fault. I hid a +1 bastard sword of flame specifically for him but you guys glossed right past it.

Of course, it's probably gone now...

[Asharad]

We need to make it a standard action that every time we enter a new room everyone does a perception check looking for hidden things.

There isn't any reason not to.

[Lycos]

Not my fault. ...you guys glossed right past it.

Like it was hidden or something... :evileye: :lowlol:

[Lycos]

We need to make it a standard action that every time we enter a new room everyone does a perception check looking for hidden things.

There isn't any reason not to.

Yeah, good point. Even if your perception is +0. You have a chance to be a lucky perceiver (No, it's not a word, but I like it.).

[DinbinFanfoom]

Actually, I'm leaning towards Amaril getting this ring.Me too. As a Pally, doesn't Bal have +'s to his saves already?

[Shiz]

Not my fault. I hid a +1 bastard sword of flame specifically for him but you guys glossed right past it.

Of course, it's probably gone now...

Not going to find every item. That's part of the fun.

[Lycos]

Not going to find every item. That's part of the fun.

True.

[Shiz]

Me too. As a Pally, doesn't Bal have +'s to his saves already?

Baladir and Brunhilde are in most need of healing most of the time.

[Sagar]

If Brun gets it, I'll have to see if it stacks with her armor bonus. I also want to see if the magic armor bonus also affects her ref, fort or will saves. But I can't do that until I get the PHB.

[DinbinFanfoom]

If Brun gets it, I'll have to see if it stacks with her armor bonus. I also want to see if the magic armor bonus also affects her ref, fort or will saves. But I can't do that until I get the PHB.

Crafted by the finest dwarf armorsmiths, this armor was once only available to dwarves, though now some armorsmiths will create a set for whoever can pay the price.
Lvl 2 +1 520 gp Lvl 17 +4 65,000 gp
Lvl 7 +2 2,600 gp Lvl 22 +5 325,000 gp
Lvl 12 +3 13,000 gp Lvl 27 +6 1,625,000 gp
Armor: Chain, Scale, Plate
Enhancement: AC
Property: Gain an item bonus to Endurance checks equal to the armor?s enhancement bonus.

Power (Daily ✦ Healing): Free Action. Regain hit points as if you had spent a healing surge.


"Enhancement: AC" tells me only AC is affected. On the other hand, I'd totally missed the "item bonus to Endurance checks". So that means Endurance checks +1? Brun is the energizer bunny!

[Sagar]

Dwarven Armor Level 2+
Crafted by the finest dwarf armorsmiths, this armor was once only available to dwarves, though now some armorsmiths will create a set for whoever can pay the price.

Lvl 2 +1 520 gp Lvl 17 +4 65,000 gp
Lvl 7 +2 2,600 gp Lvl 22 +5 325,000 gp
Lvl 12 +3 13,000 gp Lvl 27 +6 1,625,000 gp

Armor: Chain, Scale, Plate

Enhancement:
AC

Property:
Gain an item bonus to Endurance checks equal to the armor's enhancement bonus.

Power (Daily
✦ Healing): Free Action. Regain hit points as if you had spent a healing surge.




"Enhancement: AC" tells me only AC is affected.


Endurance check = fortitude save as far as I can tell.

[DinbinFanfoom]

Endurance check = fortitude save as far as I can tell.Don't think so... Endurance check is an actual skill for things like treading water, long distance running, etc.

[Sagar]

Don't think so... Endurance check is an actual skill for things like treading water, long distance running, etc.
Ahh.. true. Thanks.

Don't forget to remind me of that when they toss you off the ship.

[DinbinFanfoom]

Ahh.. true. Thanks.
Don't forget to remind me of that when they toss you off the ship.Heh. "Guys? Where'd ya go? It's only been 8 hours..."
As a side note, Brun's sheet should probably be tweaked to add the +1 from her armour to the "Arm" field next to Endurance. Total mod goes to +10, I think.

[Sagar]

On my sheet, the +1 from the armour goes under ENH for enhancements
So you have +1 lvl, +1 enh, 7 armor for +9.

[Shiz]

The Arm field in the skills section is for the penalty associated with heavy armor, but I can add the bonus. Just have to remember to remove it if you get different armomr.

[DinbinFanfoom]

On my sheet, the +1 from the armour goes under ENH for enhancements
So you have +1 lvl, +1 enh, 7 armor for +9.
I'm looking at Endurance... I thought it was +3 (fort), +1(1/2 of level)+5(training)+1(armour)=10? Only fields I see are total, trn, mod+1/2level, misc, arm. I assumed "arm" was armour.

[Sagar]

I'm looking at Endurance... I thought it was +3 (fort), +1(1/2 of level)+5(training)+1(armour)=10? Only fields I see are total, trn, mod+1/2level, misc, arm. I assumed "arm" was armour.

I was looking at AC, not endurance.

I'd forgotten about endurance.

[DinbinFanfoom]

I was looking at AC, not endurance.
I'd forgotten about endurance.
Yeah, so overall:
AC +1
Endurance +1 ("Gain an item bonus to endurance checks equal to the armour's enhancement bonus.")
Daily Free Action: Regain hit points as if you had spent a healing surge.

Hrm... that brings up another question... "regain hit pionts AS IF YOU HAD SPENT a healing surge.". Does that mean it doesn't use a surge up? :D Not that it matters a whole lot... Brun has a boatload of surges (12).

[EricStratton]

Yeah, so overall:
AC +1
Endurance +1 ("Gain an item bonus to endurance checks equal to the armour's enhancement bonus.")
Daily Free Action: Regain hit points as if you had spent a healing surge.

Hrm... that brings up another question... "regain hit pionts AS IF YOU HAD SPENT a healing surge.". Does that mean it doesn't use a surge up? :D Not that it matters a whole lot... Brun has a boatload of surges.
That's how I read it, yeah.

[Shiz]

Right. You don't spend a surge.

[Lycos]

Not my fault. I hid a +1 bastard sword of flame specifically for him but you guys glossed right past it.

Of course, it's probably gone now...

I forgot. MULLIGAN!

We can go back into the past to that room that had the sword, right? :roll:

[Sagar]

ahhh..

No

[Shiz]

I am wracking my brain where the sword could have been, but I got nothing.

[Zyzzyx]

In the the trap that you so cleverly avoided at the buried temple? :twisted:

[Zyzzyx]

/ooc Trask learned his lesson about bursting through doors, let me tell you.
Having listened to the PA/PvP stuff this week, reminds me of them.. "...Avandra favors the bold!"

[Zyzzyx]

ooc: The ONE door the swat team gets out of order on, you end up with a bad case of pants-weasels. :D
No, that's not a weasel in his pants, he's just happy to see Brunhilde. :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

[Sagar]

Having listened to the PA/PvP stuff this week, reminds me of them.. "...Avandra favors the bold!"
Sehanine, however.....

[Shiz]

Lycos, I didn;t heal Baladir because Healing Word can heal up to 20 points. Seemed a waste with you down only 12. I want to save the Daily +1d6 for a bigger emergency.

[Lycos]

Lycos, I didn;t heal Baladir because Healing Word can heal up to 20 points. Seemed a waste with you down only 12. I want to save the Daily +1d6 for a bigger emergency.

Yeah, no problem. I understand. I was mostly alerting you to the fact that this situation could really rack up damage fast and to keep an eye out for me. That's all. :mrgreen:

[Asharad]

How dorky is it that I am dreading Sagar going on vacation?

[Asharad]

Also...would it be crazy to, once a week, maybe get on ventrilio and try playing that way?

[Sagar]

We could probably do a whole floor in 2 hours on ventrilo.

[EricStratton]

Also...would it be crazy to, once a week, maybe get on ventrilio and try playing that way?
Holy ****, that'd be great!

[Shiz]

I would so be up for that. I bet RJO would give uis a channel on the AKS server.

[Lycos]

Count me in as well. :D

[GravenStone]

Round five:
Flourishing a centipedeIs this even legal? Nevermind ethical...

[Lycos]

Are you guys serious about trying to do a Ventrilo game? I would like to try and organize it. The tricky part is getting all of us together at one time. Should we get everyones availability and go from there?

[Sagar]

The hard part with Ventrilo would be the map. It takes some time to update.
Not alot, but it would slow down the pace of the game significantly.

I could be available most nights except Tuesday. I need to be off by 10 pm, though, unless it's a Friday or Saturday.

[Shiz]

Exp up[dated for weasel fight

[Lycos]

My availability would be from 9:00 - 9:30 until midnight on the weeknights. I can go longer on the weekends.

Sagar, is there a way to set up some maps ahead of time?

[Lycos]

FYI, I might be busier more than normal today. I just put some new software into production, and you never know what issues might pop-up.

[Sagar]

I do make the maps ahead of time, then erase the stuff I don't want you to see yet.

I could also make several partial maps, but it does take time to switch them
.. hmm.. or I could link several maps and tell you which to open next..

But that means making multiple scenes and then I'd have to move the characters from one scene to another..

This is getting complicated.

[Zyzzyx]

What? Oh, nothing...


So quiet here compared to the usual stuff. Just thought I'd stop by to listen to the crickets. ;)

[Sagar]

chirp
Chirp
CHIRP
Chirp
chirp

[DinbinFanfoom]

I thought you were mousing mickey?

[Sagar]

We were. The wife and in-laws were looking at family pictures.

Packing now. I just LOVE 10 hour drives...

Had a GREAT time, though.

[Asharad]

Great. Good. Glad you guys had a glorious go at it.

nowgetbackhereimgoingthroughwithdrawls!

[Lycos]

nowgetbackhereimgoingthroughwithdrawls!

Yeah, is it Wednesday yet??? :roll:

[Sagar]

In Japan, it is.

But I'm not in Japan.

[Lycos]

In Japan, it is.

But I'm not in Japan.

Hey! Neither am I!

That's good because Cindy would be pissed if I had to do that commute every day! :mrgreen:

[DinbinFanfoom]

Looking back through some of our fights, we definitely hit like a squadron of dump-trucks. We're a BIT squishy, but we're burning mobs fairly fast, so it hasn't become a huge issue. Yet.

[Lycos]

Looking back through some of our fights, we definitely hit like a squadron of dump-trucks. We're a BIT squishy, but we're burning mobs fairly fast, so it hasn't become a huge issue. Yet.

Where did this come from?

You gotta remember, were level 2. We'll be squishy for a while, probably up until level 5 or 6.. I think we're doing fairly well. We've got limited attacks, we're doing well with what we have. We're effective because we learn quickly about maximizing our attack potential. :D Items and levels will develop our defenses better. Although, I still wished we had more AE attacks.

[DinbinFanfoom]

I was just noting that our crits and surprise attacks are particularly brutal, putting out 25-35 points of damage. And we're not missing a whole lot, either.

[Lycos]

I was just noting that our crits and surprise attacks are particularly brutal, putting out 25-35 points of damage. And we're not missing a whole lot, either.

Yeah, and I think we've been really lucky on pulling crits when we need them. Who would've thought a giant weasel or whatever it was would take 50+ points of damage. :eek!:

[Sagar]

Yeah, and I think we've been really lucky on pulling crits when we need them. Who would've thought a giant weasel or whatever it was would take 50+ points of damage. :eek!: He had 80 hp

Solo mobs have about 2x normal mob hit points. Elite mobs can have 5x.

[Shiz]

Don't underestimate that our stats our 20% above standard which explains our high hit rate.

[GravenStone]

re. the Third party - someone's gonna be mighty cranky when they find out the uber weasel (aka. the Missus) ain't comin' home tonight. :lowlol:

[Lycos]

ES and Ash, are you guys getting more comfortable with the roleplaying aspect of the game? I think the rest of us had previous experience. I don't want to monopolize the game. I get the feeling that Ash is having fun with it, but ES, you seem to be hanging back still. Is that a valid observation? Are there questions we can answer?

[EricStratton]

ES and Ash, are you guys getting more comfortable with the roleplaying aspect of the game? I think the rest of us had previous experience. I don't want to monopolize the game. I get the feeling that Ash is having fun with it, but ES, you seem to be hanging back still. Is that a valid observation? Are there questions we can answer?
To quote Janeane Garofalo in The Cable Guy "Dude, I've got a lot of tables." I'm so busy w/ work right now I don't have time for anything more than specifics.

When I *am* RP'ing (like when Amaril just walked into the house) remember, as an Eladrin, Amaril doesn't find any of what we're doing all that important. He's going to live a LONG time so taking a few hours to clear one house in one town is an amusing diversion.

[Lycos]

To quote Janeane Garofalo in The Cable Guy "Dude, I've got a lot of tables." I'm so busy w/ work right now I don't have time for anything more than specifics.

I understand that. Some day that will be me. :roll:

[Asharad]

yeah I'm good, thanks. I occasionally have problems with a technical aspect of gameplay, but over all getting it, I think.

[EricStratton]

I understand that. Some day that will be me. :roll:
It won't be me for long. I'm getting rolled off this project a week from tomorrow. Then I go to HI for 2.5 weeks, then I get to dick around until they get me on a new project or I just quit.

[Sagar]

Where in HI are you going?

[Asharad]

Nice visual aids!

[Lycos]

Yeah, where did you get the drawing?

[Sagar]

Ancient chinese secret.... :p

[Lycos]

Special Guest Star

Zyzzyx

[DinbinFanfoom]

Special Guest Star
Zyzzyx

"Ned Shakeshaft the Rogue" apparently. Great. Fandango was insufferable before... now he'll be a REAL show-off. :P

[Asharad]

"Ned Shakeshaft the Rogue" apparently. Great. Fandango was insufferable before... now he'll be a REAL show-off. :P

Actually, that's kind of a bummer.

[DinbinFanfoom]

Actually, that's kind of a bummer.
Hey, there's only like 3 classes in 4e. He'd probably have been a bard but they don't exist... yet. :D

[Lycos]

He'd probably have been a bard but they don't exist... yet. :D

Which sucks because I always liked bards.

[DinbinFanfoom]

Which sucks because I always liked bards.
Maybe he's a rogue with musical talent. Though with a name like "Shakeshaft"... sounds more like he's into adult entertainment. :D (JK Zyx, glad to have ya!)

[Zyzzyx]

Maybe he's a rogue with musical talent. Though with a name like "Shakeshaft"... sounds more like he's into adult entertainment. :D (JK Zyx, glad to have ya!)

Well there Miss Brun... if you'd like to shake my shaft, maybe there's some time later? :flex:


I've been reading here probably as much as you folk, I'm glad that Sagar was able to set something up for me.

[Shiz]

I object to his icon. We are not twins! Give him and orc one!

[Lycos]

I object to his icon. We are not twins! Give him and orc one!

You're not twins. He's wearing red, and his shaft is smaller than yours.

[Lycos]

I'm going to be out of town tomorrow. Shiz, you wanna handle Baladir? He has everything. No daily powers have been used.

[Zyzzyx]

A disembodied voice says, "Ned.. don't forget that you have no weapons and armor... and you will be needing one soon...."

This message brought to you by your friendly neighborhood DM.....

<looks off panel, like they do in a comic strip>

What, you gettin tired of the talk? Want us to move this along? Oh, alright... I was getting to that point, really. Was gonna be my next line or two. Really.

/mutters, "Durn omnicious DMs" ;)

[Asharad]

This window thing is obviously important, but I can't figure out why.

[Lycos]

This window thing is obviously important, but I can't figure out why.

It could be a real ghost.

It could be someone using that area to look out into the ocean for some reason. Who knows.

Ash, do you want to bluff our exit if we head for town? Maybe it would behoove us to have the people here think we aren't coming back?

[Lycos]

I have a question. Is there a way in this combat system where we can move back and draw our enemy towards us without them getting free attacks?

[Shiz]

You can shift one square without drawing an OA, but unless the front line have consecutive initiative, that could leave the last one surrounded. OAs also only apply to melee attacks so if you want to back up, you need to do it before the enemy engages.

The problem with that is Brun and Baladir have no ranged weapons (something you guys can fix if you want) so we lose a lot of firepower by retreating.

[Sagar]

I think Warlords have ways to move people during combat, too.
But you don't have one of those either.

[DinbinFanfoom]

Brun has an encounter (or is it daily?) power called Covering Strike or somesuch that allows an ally to shift two spaces for free, out of harms way.

[Lycos]

Well, I do it in Tae Kwon Do, but I'm not coordinating with another person, but I do draw my opponent back as the fight progresses. But it seems difficult to do in this combat system. Let's say that Brun and I are a little to far forward, we find it easier to move back 5'. Can we do that without taking a penalty?

[DinbinFanfoom]

Well, I do it in Tae Kwon Do, but I'm not coordinating with another person, but I do draw my opponent back as the fight progresses. But it seems difficult to do in this combat system. Let's say that Brun and I are a little to far forward, we find it easier to move back 5'. Can we do that without taking a penalty?
You can always shift 1 square (5') as a move without penalty.

[Lycos]

You can always shift 1 square (5') as a move without penalty.

Ok. That should work then.

[Asharad]

I can move something like three squares without a penalty, but thats more of an escape mechanism than a combat tactic (given my squishyness)

[Shiz]

Oh and by the way, good thing we didn't just burn this place down like I suggested we might. Ned wouldn't have liked that.

[EricStratton]

Oh and by the way, good thing we didn't just burn this place down like I suggested we might. Ned wouldn't have liked that.
Baladir would've. :lowlol:

[Zyzzyx]

!!!

Don't tase... er... burn me bro!

:D


I guess my death wouldn't have been on Baladir's mind, the paladin that he is, if he didn't know I was in there? Hmmm... and couldn't have screamed being gagged. Nor scrambled out.

Yeah, burning the house down would've sucked.

Besides, then you would've had a flaming giant weasel running out to attack you.

[DinbinFanfoom]

Besides, then you would've had a flaming giant weasel running out to attack you.Maybe Trask would have seen it coming, then. :D

[Lycos]

Maybe Trask would have seen it coming, then. :D

:rotflmao:

[DinbinFanfoom]

Sagar: Giant Spider added to sprite library.

[Zyzzyx]

Can we get the Giant Spider sprite combined with Baladir's sprite?

Ya know... if it should jump on his face again.

[Lycos]

Can we get the Giant Spider sprite combined with Baladir's sprite?

Ya know... if it should jump on his face again.

And make sure you add the "Ned run through with my Bastard Sword" sprite because I think it'll look really good at about the same time.

Ooops, can't see. Spider on my face! :lowlol: :D

[Shiz]

We got a ruling on the Hold Person scroll:

Wis vs Will
Hit: Dazed 2+wis (6) rounds
Miss: 1 round

Dazed = gives CA to all enemies, can do one action

I assume the range is 10 and it takes a std action to read the scroll, minor action to open it.

[Zyzzyx]

With two folks between me and the door, will I be able to get in the room and do anything on my first round?

[Sagar]

Yes. You can move past allies at any time. You cannot, however, end your turn in the same square.

[GravenStone]

Yep, we've got space herpes...

[Lycos]

Is the only fire attack we got sitting outside the house in my cocktails?

[EricStratton]

Is the only fire attack we got sitting outside the house in my cocktails?
As mentioned in the round thread - I've got a fire power but it's my encounter power and only targets 1 enemy.

[GravenStone]

Don't suppose skewering one on the sunrod would suffice in a pinch?

[EricStratton]

Hmm. It's an idea.

[DinbinFanfoom]

I'm still foggy on this... the grubs that are crawling around on the floor (I presume) can't be hurt by anything BUT fire? If the remaining grubs are still on the cadaver, then let's torch it, no problems there (hey, free light!) but Baladir is another issue. The potion is probably the best way to go. I know I (and I think Baladir) have a healing potion, but I forgot who had the disease ones...

[Shiz]

The problem is that there is no cure disease spell that we can bang out in 4E, only the ritual which none of use are high enough level for. Rot grubs are old sk001!

[GravenStone]

Little did you all realize that Ned is a replacement for the soon to be departed Baladir. :wink: No wonder Baladir has had it in for the poor rogue. :lowlol:

[Sagar]

The grub on the ground can be easily squished if they haven't made it back to the body (and I rolled that none did).

The ones in Baladir must be killed with fire - or with a really hot weapon. The sunrod is not hot - more like a battery powered fluorescent bulb.

I would assume many of you have torches... If you can get them lit fast enough.

[Shiz]

But we still have to get the armor off.

[Zyzzyx]

Little did you all realize that Ned is a replacement for the soon to be departed Baladir. :wink: No wonder Baladir has had it in for the poor rogue. :lowlol:
A'right, if I must be. But I'm not gonna wear that stinky plate armor. ;)

[Shiz]

Well, at least we might get a wizard out of this when Lycos re-rolls!

[Lycos]

Well, at least we might get a wizard out of this when Lycos re-rolls!

I promise that if I have to re-roll, I'll be a wizard. :mrgreen:

[EricStratton]

I promise that if I have to re-roll, I'll be a wizard. :mrgreen:
Do we want him back, though? I mean, if he's killed by some worms, is he fit to be in our band of bad asses?

[Lycos]

But before that...

GIVE ME THE POTION! Hurry up!

/ooc The DM says you haven't given it to me yet.

[Asharad]

Hey sagar,

Will you tell us when we missed stuff? Like what and where?

After the point of no return, that is.

Like the pack we just burnt up. Was there anything cool in there?

[Asharad]

Also, what happens if our party wipes.

Are we just...finished? Does Sagar have to figure out some way we lose but aren't totally done (like in the PA podcasts).

Years of MMORPGS have made the permadeath prospect an unusual one, I'm just curious as to how D&D handles it (or more specifically, how we handle it).

[Sagar]

If you actually die, you can be rezzed (for a hefty fee) if it's done quickly enough. That or you make a new character. This version of DnD makes it easier to not-quite-die than in previous versions.

I can tell you when you miss stuff if you want.

Oh, and someone give me a number between 0 and 21... I need to check something ...

[Asharad]

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