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Straxus
14th April 2004, 08:17 AM
In true fanboy fashion, I'm starting a thread to discuss what I (we) are considering playing, well before the game even goes beta. Gawd almighty, I am a geek. Someone, help me, please... :shock:

... :lol:

Anyway, on with my ideas. :?

EQ1 taught me that rampant character recreation is the self-indulgent road to mediocrity, so I've trained myself to carefully create and sustain a select few characters, such that my limited playtime yields the best results for both variety and advanced play. SWG has been a field test of this policy, and it's worked quite well. I've come to realize that I can only enjoy 1-3 characters over the long term, so I try to shoot for variety and longevity from the start.

For EQ2?

My main will likely be a Human Mage/Sorcerer/Wizard. I've got a good feeling about it. :mrgreen:

My alt will likely be a Ratonga Scout/Predator/Assassin. SWG taught me I like playing the mean little underdog (underrat?) bastage. :twisted: The initial ratonga pics are encouraging, and it's a new EQ race to explore.

Of course, I'm tempted by dark dreams of an Iksar Fighter/Crusader/Shadowknight or Iksar Priest/Cleric/Inquisitor. I never developed an iksar and/or SK character in EQ1, and I regret having never managed to do so.

Then again, I'm a cat-person. I like cats, unlike so many of you anti-feline heathens here. :x So, I'm entranced with the idea of a Kerran Scout/Rogue/Swashbuckler.

What I do know is that I won't be playing an elf. I am sick of elves. I've been gaming for over a decade now, and if I never again play an elf, I can still die a content gamer... :roll:

Caranthir
14th April 2004, 08:23 AM
What I do know is that I won't be playing an elf. I am sick of elves. I've been gaming for over a decade now, and if I never again play an elf, I can still die a content gamer... :roll:

On that note, I'll be playing a Wood Elf Scout/Predator/Ranger.

Straxus
14th April 2004, 08:23 AM
My character descriptions, perhaps somewhat confusing to anyone not current in the state of EQ2 development, are read as thus:

Race Archtype/Class/Sub-Class The latter portion represents an increasing specialization as level progresses.

Quervo
14th April 2004, 08:23 AM
I have nor even seen the races available yet... so I am kinda clueless 8(

Straxus
14th April 2004, 08:26 AM
Go here, and read at thy leisure:

http://eq2vault.ign.com/

Then, there is the official site:

http://everquest2.station.sony.com/

Straxus
14th April 2004, 08:32 AM
On that note, I'll be playing a Wood Elf Scout/Predator/Ranger.

Please understand, I've got nothing against elves. However, I do appreciate someone who can roleplay an elf with an "elven" perspective, rather than just play a human with pointy ears. I've resolved not to play another elf until I feel I can do that role justice.

Aside from that, I've also been a gamer for over a decade (as I've mentioned before). I've got at least two notable "epic" elven PCs to my credit, and it's time to move on to something else. :wink:

Shiz
14th April 2004, 08:45 AM
While it is incredibly boring, I imagine Shiz the Human Ranger will be reborn.

Sir Rubi
14th April 2004, 09:22 AM
On that note, I'll be playing a Wood Elf Scout/Predator/Ranger.

Please understand, I've got nothing against elves. However, I do appreciate someone who can roleplay an elf with an "elven" perspective, rather than just play a human with pointy ears. I've resolved not to play another elf until I feel I can do that role justice.

Aside from that, I've also been a gamer for over a decade (as I've mentioned before). I've got at least two notable "epic" elven PCs to my credit, and it's time to move on to something else. :wink:

I used to play the kind and aloof elf, but got dragged out of that by the elf-raised-exclusively-by-human-clerics. I can do "snot-elf" if I choose to, and do dark elf pretty well...

That said, my character will be a fighter. I'm thinking Crusader/Paladin, but I might just stay with a straight fighter... Not sure yet.

Quervo
14th April 2004, 09:27 AM
From the way i read it you dont get a choice to stay the base... but maybe i am unclear on that.... it appeared to me that you had to take one of the classes available to continue to progress.

Straxus
14th April 2004, 09:35 AM
That is true, but an Elf Fighter/Warrior/Guardian would be essentially the "straight" fighter, whereas an Elf Fighter/Crusader/Paladin would be the divine-inspired hero.

Straxus
14th April 2004, 09:38 AM
...am I correct that you'd be an elf? Again? :P

Nothing personal. I like elves. I've said that before. Elves are cool. Some elves are hot. Elves played by Liv Tyler are definately hot. Way hot. Um, is it warm in here? :shock:

Sir Rubi
14th April 2004, 09:38 AM
That is true, but an Elf Fighter/Warrior/Guardian would be essentially the "straight" fighter, whereas an Elf Fighter/Crusader/Paladin would be the divine-inspired hero.

Right, that's what I was thinking. I hadn't seriously looked into the Guardian route, as I usually play Knights of some ilk almost exclusively...

Straxus
14th April 2004, 10:05 AM
See, this is where I often assert my own beliefs on "knights" and "nobility" I'll quote a moment from the description of the Guardian sub-class, which stands as the "good" side of the pure "warrior" motif.

Warriors who practice combat in a combination of defense and skill with weapons often select the path of a Guardian. Training and mastering the use of heavy armors to protect themself in combat along with the use of weapons. Guardians devote themselves to their training in order to stand firm against any threat that may endanger their companions.

I have never believed that one must be divine (or religious) in order of be "knightly" or "noble". In a sense, the guardian is a knight.

Greebo
14th April 2004, 10:07 AM
I'm interested in the merchant route - not sure of specifics yet. I'll probably also head down the enchanter route on another character, as well, as I always enjoy that role - you never get bored in a group when you're the crowd control - and if you DO get bored, you're doing something too easy. :)

Straxus
14th April 2004, 10:15 AM
That's what I like to hear. I know that if Greebo heads down the road of crowd-control, we're likely to have a leading expert in the field on our side when we tackle EQ2's deadliest dungeons. Of course, we're also likely to suffer FULL CAPS FLAMING when we screw up... :shock:

Greebo, I've heard they plan to blend crafting in with the regular professions, in a way I'm told is similar to HZ (which I cannot comment on, since I've never played HZ). So, you might be able to do both in the same toon.

Greebo
14th April 2004, 12:04 PM
Well what is the Artisan class then?

That intrigues me.

I'll possibly end up with one Artisan and one Enchanter - not sure about the subclass...

And yes, flaming all caps orders will still be the norm on runs I lead. When strict discipline is required to succeed, I find the approach works. :)

Quervo
14th April 2004, 01:33 PM
Yeah I read they decided to get of the only an artisan charcater... so now you may have one artisan class along with your adventuring class

Bregalad
15th April 2004, 12:45 AM
...wind brings a distant wisper...

come back, come back

leng
15th April 2004, 05:46 AM
According to the writeups, artisan as a seperate class was dumped some time ago. They are indeed allowing one adventure and one crafting class per character (sounds familiar)!

Personally, I think too little is known yet to make a decision. I'll probably create one of each archetype and see where it takes me.

Oh, Straxus, your classification system is tautological. By definition an assassin has to be a scout/predator/assassin since there is no other way of reaching that subclass[smile].

Greebo
15th April 2004, 08:17 AM
I wonder how a barbarian would do as an enchanter sage...

Draknor
15th April 2004, 08:57 AM
I'll probably head down the Shadowknight or Necromancer path this time. They seem to suit me better. Unsure of race as of now.

I'll probably be the poster-child for anti-crafting if it's anything like Horizons. :lol:

Draknor
15th April 2004, 09:11 AM
And yes, flaming all caps orders will still be the norm on runs I lead. When strict discipline is required to succeed, I find the approach works. :)

Thank god.

Quervo
15th April 2004, 09:41 AM
I wonder if there will be class restrictions this time around.... it was one of thing i DIDNT like from EQ from the get go... even after they added some classes to some races..

Caranthir
15th April 2004, 01:40 PM
Supposedly all races can be all classes this time around. So if you really want to play an Ogre wizard with a puny mana pool, the choice is finally yours.

Quervo
15th April 2004, 02:02 PM
the ogre wizard wasnt what i had in mind.... but the halfling shaman???

Caranthir
16th April 2004, 12:37 AM
From what I read, yep, halfling shamans will indeed be possible.

Straxus
16th April 2004, 06:50 AM
I realize that the progression for assassin, like any subclass, involves certain specific prerequisites. I was just showing the archtype & class prereqs for the sake of clarity/familiarity to others here. :)

Draknor
16th April 2004, 02:09 PM
Supposedly all races can be all classes this time around. So if you really want to play an Ogre wizard with a puny mana pool, the choice is finally yours.

Do racial attributes still have a strong impact on your class?

Raveneye
16th April 2004, 05:09 PM
I'm pretty sure that Slainte the Barbarian Priest/Shaman/Mystic will be reborn, but I'm also really really curious about making a Froglok Fighter/Warrior/Beserker. There's just something appealing about a beserk froglok.... :lol:

Caranthir
16th April 2004, 05:11 PM
Here's the info straight from the EQ2 official site. This is all I know so far (I'll have to dig through the forums to find anything else out).

Features

A new, massive online world for thousands of players to explore, filled with danger, adventure and mystery
Unparalleled character customization capabilities. In addition to thousands of armor, weapons and items users can equip, players will be able to customize their character's facial appearance to an incredible level of detail and personalization
16 races, 50 levels and 24 classes with a branching system that allows players to choose their class as they advance
Trade skills available to all player classes
Player-owned real estate (such as apartments, homes, and guild houses)
No race/class limitations, allowing players to truly choose who they want to be in game
New user friendly game mechanics with reduced learning curve for both new and seasoned players
More than 160 unique creature types, from Orcs and Goblins to huge dragons and menacing Living Statues
Incentives for current EverQuest subscribers
A state-of-the-art, cinematic quality 3D graphics engine capable of improving as hardware technology advances
State-of-the art combat, spell and skill systems

Straxus
17th April 2004, 07:33 AM
No race/class limitations, allowing players to truly choose who they want to be in game


Grrr! I cannot play a Wombat Chronomancer! :x

...

:?

Carry on...

Charinida
20th April 2004, 04:12 PM
As it is, I'm currently enjoying SWG with my two characters (ugh, two accts) ...

I really like the way they do the skill exp gains there. If you don't want it, drop it, but you can pick it back up again... Unlike EQ currently.

And the crafting style is fun too... (although Chari has yet to make a profit, master artisan, almost master merchant, working up weaponsmith)

Kellisanth, on the other hand, is all fighter (tka/sword/ch) ... she originally wanted to be tka/sword/fencer, but two sword skills makes it kinda redundant...

I'll see what happens when EQ2 comes about...

Definitely Tier'dal... no doubt.

Barrack
9th June 2004, 07:01 PM
If I were to join in, I would prob go Kerran Fighter/Brawler/Monk

Hey, I like the cat people.

Prob end up nameing him Sekerath again as well :)

Shiz
10th June 2004, 09:37 AM
Shiz Nitz will be reborn if I play. I would probably go human again. The class would be a hybrid of some kind.

Serani
10th June 2004, 09:39 AM
Probably a wood elf and probably a ranger (eventually), though I haven't quite figured out how the magic works yet (for non-mageor cleric/type classes).

Caranthir
10th June 2004, 05:33 PM
Well, rangers no longer have magic, from what I've read.

Reijas
22nd July 2004, 04:23 PM
Wood Elf Scout/Bard/Dirge named Reijas, Sajier's son (Sajier is my bard on Bristlebane and my story for Reij is flowing off Saj's storyline! :))

Drax
23rd July 2004, 12:34 PM
I think Drom the Barbarian Scout/Predator/Assassin would have to be reborn, tho' I strongly like the idea of a Froglok Scout/Predator/Ranger, a Ratonga Fighter/Brawler/Bruiser, and a Wood Elf Fighter/Brawler/Monk...

Uh oh ... *stops reading the links*

Aalrahil
23rd July 2004, 06:18 PM
I'm starting to think I want to give EQ2 a shot when it comes out. Better start looking up the character class info.

Sagar
26th July 2004, 03:51 PM
Sagar the dwarven priest/?/? will have to re-appear.

Probably Sirulean the froglok warrior..

And a half-elven bard...

And Neutrino, gnome mage....

And.. uhm.. how many characters can we have?

Caranthir
26th July 2004, 03:52 PM
I believe it's going to be eight per server again.

Quervo
26th July 2004, 04:07 PM
your froglok may have to wait if things are going like i am hearing... Frogies will be a quest race. you will not beable to start as one.

Shiz
26th July 2004, 04:26 PM
Not quest. Server-based, one-time event.

Draknor
26th July 2004, 04:29 PM
My plan was to be a wood-elf shadowknight. Given that this choice might be a serious uphill battle, though, I may go straight warrior of some type if the guild is mostly good-aligned with their mains. I think I'd miss having a little magic, though.

Shiz
26th July 2004, 04:44 PM
I am going to want to see more before I choose. Some form of melee, but not a monk type. Predator has a nice ring to it, I must admit.

Aananla
26th July 2004, 05:41 PM
Ok, I think I've narrowed it down some...

Either a Fighter/Warrior/Berserker or a Mage/Sorcerer/Warlock or a Priest/Cleric/Templar (naturally) or a Priest/Druid/Fury or a Priest/Shaman/Defiler or a Scout/Bard/Dirge or a Scout/Predator/Assassin

Too soon to tell yet. :)

What race? I haven't a clue.

Caranthir
26th July 2004, 05:58 PM
Dunno if I could get used to Aananla as anything other than a human in a really ugly salmon-colored breastplate. :)

I've got Wood Elf Scout/Predator/Ranger, of course.
As for other characters, I'll probably try damn near everything at one point or another, just like in every other MMORPG I've ever played.

Aananla
26th July 2004, 06:11 PM
Dunno if I could get used to Aananla as anything other than a human in a really ugly salmon-colored breastplate. :)

I've got Wood Elf Scout/Predator/Ranger, of course.
As for other characters, I'll probably try damn near everything at one point or another, just like in every other MMORPG I've ever played.

It was Dusty Rose!!

Raveneye
26th July 2004, 06:24 PM
Frogluk Paladin?
"Feel my righteous wrath CROOAAAK!"

Ratonga Shadowknight?
"I will devour your soul! SQEEEEK!"

Nah, maybe not.

Draknor
26th July 2004, 06:38 PM
It was Dusty Rose!!

Right. And I never wore a tree on my tunic. :lol:

Greebo
27th July 2004, 08:25 AM
It was Dusty Rose!!

Right. And I never wore a tree on my tunic. :lol:
And we didnt' have a shadowknight who wore pink, either.

Shiz
27th July 2004, 10:11 AM
Any mention of armor tinting in EQ2 out of the gates?

Sagar
27th July 2004, 10:12 AM
*cough*Lycos*cough

I don't know.. I seem to remember something like that.....

Caranthir
27th July 2004, 10:16 AM
Wasn't Trew dressed in pink too?

Aananla
27th July 2004, 10:24 AM
It was the human cultural armor color. I eventually had a full suit of the stuff. And, by the way, it was Dusty Rose! :P

Asharad
27th July 2004, 10:27 AM
I shall be a bard of some variety.

Caranthir
27th July 2004, 10:33 AM
It was the human cultural armor color. I eventually had a full suit of the stuff. And, by the way, it was Dusty Rose! :P

Ahh, okay. I thought it was some sort of swishy shadowknight thing.

shadowgate
29th July 2004, 06:27 PM
IF I get sucked into EQ2 and away from CoH, which isn't likely too soon, I would probably go for a Mage/Wizard who was either a Dark Elf of Erudite. I like the Erudite's Intellegence but I am not sure I am big on their appearance or actually how blue the Dark Elves are for that matter! :( I am not sure how those stats worry for EQ or EQ in general and how they are raised but it they where easy to change that might change those race choices.

leng
30th July 2004, 06:22 AM
There will be a gnome magic user of some kind, not sure which flavour yet. Nor am I sure if she will stay in Freeport or change allegence move to Qeynos. But somehow,
TANTALA WILL LIVE AGAIN

GravenStone
30th July 2004, 09:58 AM
There will be a gnome magic user of some kind, not sure which flavour yet. Nor am I sure if she will stay in Freeport or change allegence move to Qeynos. But somehow,
TANTALA WILL LIVE AGAIN

Actually, from what I've seen elsewhere, gnomes can go either wayfrom the beginning, same as humans, barbarians and half-elves.

Caranthir
30th July 2004, 10:09 AM
There will be a gnome magic user of some kind, not sure which flavour yet. Nor am I sure if she will stay in Freeport or change allegence move to Qeynos. But somehow,
TANTALA WILL LIVE AGAIN

Actually, from what I've seen elsewhere, gnomes can go either wayfrom the beginning, same as humans, barbarians and half-elves.

/em imagines a horde of bisexual gnomes running around

/em claws out his eyes

GravenStone
30th July 2004, 10:11 AM
There will be a gnome magic user of some kind, not sure which flavour yet. Nor am I sure if she will stay in Freeport or change allegence move to Qeynos. But somehow,
TANTALA WILL LIVE AGAIN

Actually, from what I've seen elsewhere, gnomes can go either wayfrom the beginning, same as humans, barbarians and half-elves.

/em imagines a horde of bisexual gnomes running around

/em claws out his eyes

Bisexual? Gnomes do it with clockwork, lad. :P

Draknor
30th July 2004, 02:54 PM
There will be a gnome magic user of some kind, not sure which flavour yet. Nor am I sure if she will stay in Freeport or change allegence move to Qeynos. But somehow,
TANTALA WILL LIVE AGAIN

Actually, from what I've seen elsewhere, gnomes can go either wayfrom the beginning, same as humans, barbarians and half-elves.

/em imagines a horde of bisexual gnomes running around

/em claws out his eyes

Bisexual? Gnomes do it with clockwork, lad. :P

Now there's a mental image I really didn't need. :shock:

Shiz
30th July 2004, 03:02 PM
I thought Gnomes did it LIKE clockwork.

Necros like their partners bony.

Mages are into lots of petting.

Shamen are animals in the sack.

Rogues prefer it from behind. (ok, that one was too easy)

Bards get carpal tunnel.

Wizards blow their wad early.


Having trouble with the rest...

Draknor
30th July 2004, 06:58 PM
Wizards do it really hard,
but they're finished just as fast,
and clerics do it with a yaulp,
a whimper and a gasp.

Warriors insist on dirty-talk
with taunting and much abuse,
while bard tongue wags in song
when it might be put to better use.

Enchanters, though charming,
would rather do it with your mind
and rogues insist on using pointy things,
preferably from behind.

SKs do it with a touch,
but only once a day
and necros do it with the dead
to our general dismay.

Monks do it with hands and feet
flailing all about,
while pallies try to lay their hands
on their squires and their mounts.

Shammies do it really slow
but rarely in human form,
and druids insist on groups of four
or at least that seems the norm.

Rangers do a bit of everything,
often with whip in hand
and beastlords title will have to say it all
or so discretion demands.

Mages simply view this crowd
and say with some regret:
"to hell with that,
I'll just do it with my pet!"

Raveneye
1st August 2004, 10:42 AM
That's awesome Drak! Thanks for the laugh on a Sunday when I have to be here at work! :lol:

Draknor
2nd August 2004, 10:41 AM
You're welcome, but I'm afraid I can't take credit for the poem. Search engines are a wonderful thing. :)

Cacstus
2nd August 2004, 07:12 PM
I think I'll go ogre warrior and work on defense at every opportunity. And resistances. All tankly abilities including offense only as required to hold a mob's attention. Probably won't be so great as a duo type unless partnered with a healer that also does good damage, but I got pretty bummed out with my SK being a so-so tank. I'll be heavily depending upon and supporting the guild... If you're playing evil :twisted:

Raveneye
3rd August 2004, 11:45 AM
I think I'll go ogre warrior and work on defense at every opportunity. And resistances. All tankly abilities including offense only as required to hold a mob's attention. Probably won't be so great as a duo type unless partnered with a healer that also does good damage, but I got pretty bummed out with my SK being a so-so tank. I'll be heavily depending upon and supporting the guild... If you're playing evil :twisted:

If the guild decides to go the "LoW=good mains, HoE=evil mains" route then Raveneye will make a comeback. He'll defintely be a Dark Elf again, but I'm not sure if this time I'll go SK again or if I want to maybe try evil Cleric. Since so many of the evil races excel at melee classes (Ogre/Troll Warriors, Dark Elf SKs and Rogues, even Rats look like they'll be good Rogues) it might be nice to play an evil cleric, and certainly there will be no shortage of evil groups wanting my services.

Slainte the Barb Shaman is already cemented in as my official "good" character. I'm simply compelled to play him... :D

EricStratton
3rd August 2004, 11:51 AM
For the evil side I may remake my very first EQ character. Can't remember his name (Zha...something) but he was a Dark Elf Necro.

For good I may go human monk. Or wood elf bard. Those were my two favorite chars (after my main...but I'm not sure if I want to recreate him or not).

Shiz
3rd August 2004, 12:23 PM
I wonder if Happy Fun Ball will get through the name filter. It would be a funny dwarf warrior name.

Well, I am not REALLY wondering. Silly idea.

Cacstus
3rd August 2004, 12:32 PM
Haha, playing with the character maker last night I saved two. An ogre named Klebur, and a troll named Hekktu. Yeah I know they can't be reserved, but I'm guessing first day on just about anything you want will be available. Should be no problem getting those through the filter huh?

Drax
3rd August 2004, 02:20 PM
I wonder if Happy Fun Ball will get through the name filter. It would be a funny dwarf warrior name.

Well, I am not REALLY wondering. Silly idea.
You could name a dwarf ... "Happy D'Funbal" :)

Caranthir
3rd August 2004, 02:27 PM
I wonder if Happy Fun Ball will get through the name filter. It would be a funny dwarf warrior name.

Well, I am not REALLY wondering. Silly idea.
You could name a dwarf ... "Happy D'Funbal" :)

Ooh, can I be "Sleepy D'Funbal"? And Drom can be "Dopey D'Funbal"!

Drax
3rd August 2004, 02:36 PM
I wonder if Happy Fun Ball will get through the name filter. It would be a funny dwarf warrior name.

Well, I am not REALLY wondering. Silly idea.
You could name a dwarf ... "Happy D'Funbal" :)

Ooh, can I be "Sleepy D'Funbal"? And Drom can be "Dopey D'Funbal"!
Then that would make Greebo ... "Grumpy D'Funball," right? :)

Greebo
3rd August 2004, 03:05 PM
I wonder if Happy Fun Ball will get through the name filter. It would be a funny dwarf warrior name.

Well, I am not REALLY wondering. Silly idea.
You could name a dwarf ... "Happy D'Funbal" :)

Ooh, can I be "Sleepy D'Funbal"? And Drom can be "Dopey D'Funbal"!
Then that would make Greebo ... "Grumpy D'Funball," right? :)
No.

Aalrahil
3rd August 2004, 03:19 PM
I'm not sure how severe the stat penalties are going to be for playing races that don't have good stats for a particular class, but I'd love to play an Ogre wizard-type character, I think that would be a blast to roleplay. One of my favorite "fun" characters in DAOC was a half-ogre sorceror.

leng
4th August 2004, 06:12 AM
I want to be an ogre bard!

GravenStone
4th August 2004, 09:43 AM
I might see if I can create the character I first envisaged when I heard about EQ all those years ago (before I knew the class limitaitons).... troll necro :lol:

Drax
4th August 2004, 11:03 AM
I might see if I can create the character I first envisaged when I heard about EQ all those years ago (before I knew the class limitaitons).... troll necro :lol:
When I first read about EQ, my "ideal" character to create was going to be a wood elf or dwarf monk, or a dwarf ranger. Now I can make the first a reality. :) Have some but not much interest in the dwarf ranger, now that frogloks exist. :)

Tho' one character that would require a TON of work (factionwise) but would be a very rewarding experience, I'd think, would be a ratonga ranger. :)

Quervo
4th August 2004, 11:04 AM
bah just be an evil ranger....

Caranthir
4th August 2004, 11:09 AM
bah just be an evil ranger....

Just don't be one of the gazillion Drizzzzt, Durizzt, Drizt, and Drizzits out there. I'd hate to have to kill you. :P

Drax
4th August 2004, 11:10 AM
bah just be an evil ranger....

Just don't be one of the gazillion Drizzzzt, Durizzt, Drizt, and Drizzits out there. I'd hate to have to kill you. :P
There'll be PvP? :)

Caranthir
4th August 2004, 11:17 AM
bah just be an evil ranger....

Just don't be one of the gazillion Drizzzzt, Durizzt, Drizt, and Drizzits out there. I'd hate to have to kill you. :P
There'll be PvP? :)

Ummmm...... yeah...... PvP, that's it.

Draknor
4th August 2004, 11:43 AM
bah just be an evil ranger....

Aren't they all evil? :lol:

Greebo
4th August 2004, 12:20 PM
bah just be an evil ranger....

Aren't they all evil? :lol:
Only the ones who aren't lost.

Draknor
4th August 2004, 12:29 PM
bah just be an evil ranger....

Aren't they all evil? :lol:
Only the ones who aren't lost.

As soon as I find my way out of this forest, I'm going to get you for that remark. :wink:

Caranthir
4th August 2004, 12:37 PM
bah just be an evil ranger....

Aren't they all evil? :lol:
Only the ones who aren't lost.

As soon as I find my way out of this forest, I'm going to get you for that remark. :wink:

If I could find my way out of this damn gorge I'd join you.

Greebo
4th August 2004, 01:24 PM
bah just be an evil ranger....

Aren't they all evil? :lol:
Only the ones who aren't lost.

As soon as I find my way out of this forest, I'm going to get you for that remark. :wink:
Well, at least that shows that you aren't evil...

Shiz
4th August 2004, 03:17 PM
Shiz was only evil when he was the puller and less than 1 yellow from levelling. :D

Shiz
5th August 2004, 05:19 PM
Spent some time looking over the EQ2 site. The Bezerker could be fun and LoW never seemed to have enough warrior types. Shiz the Barbarian Bezerker works for me. My evil character will probably be a Fury. Race to be determined.

Asharad
5th August 2004, 05:21 PM
The only reason Ash even existed was because very early in the history of LoW, we didn't have any warriors. My original LoW was a bard (I prefer bards, truthfully). I was having to tank and getting slaughtered, thus Ash was born.

Draknor
5th August 2004, 05:27 PM
Spent some time looking over the EQ2 site. The Bezerker could be fun and LoW never seemed to have enough warrior types. Shiz the Barbarian Bezerker works for me. My evil character will probably be a Fury. Race to be determined.

Well, heck. Now I'll have to make Draknor a Berzerker. Otherwise who else am I going to compete with? :lol:

Caranthir
5th August 2004, 05:28 PM
When I first started playing EQ, I started a wood elf ranger named Caranthir, fell off the Kelethin platform a dozen times, logged off, deleted him, and started a half elf paladin named Acton. Got him to level 9, then wound up deleting him after he lost all his stuff following a girl deep into Befallen to retrieve my friend's possessions after he plummeted down a well. Restarted Caranthir and the rest was history.

Shiz
5th August 2004, 06:09 PM
Spent some time looking over the EQ2 site. The Bezerker could be fun and LoW never seemed to have enough warrior types. Shiz the Barbarian Bezerker works for me. My evil character will probably be a Fury. Race to be determined.

Well, heck. Now I'll have to make Draknor a Berzerker. Otherwise who else am I going to compete with? :lol:

Man, those were good times. I couldn't keep up with your catassing until you took a break. I will never forget the time some guy gave level 18 Shiz a Lammy and GEBS for no reason whatsoever.

Draknor
6th August 2004, 11:27 AM
When I first started playing EQ, I started a wood elf ranger named Caranthir, fell off the Kelethin platform a dozen times, logged off, deleted him, and started a half elf paladin named Acton. Got him to level 9, then wound up deleting him after he lost all his stuff following a girl deep into Befallen to retrieve my friend's possessions after he plummeted down a well. Restarted Caranthir and the rest was history.

On my very first trip to Befallen, my friend's girlfriend fell down that well (she can't ever stand still so was always moving and jumping around). We had to recruit help to get all her stuff back. We found a great group of guys - they even ate several deaths to help us out, because they'd done the same thing in the past. :D

Greebo
6th August 2004, 11:45 AM
Befallen! Friend of thieves, enemy of everyone else! Love that place. Hate that place!!

Caranthir
6th August 2004, 11:50 AM
I love Befallen. Except for Unrest and Dalnir it's my favorite dungeon. This was his own damn fault. We told him repeatedly to stay away from the well. Then I hear a thud, and he says, "Oops".

leng
6th August 2004, 11:54 AM
I think Unrest was my favourite. Memories of trips there with HoE when Tantala was in the mid teens, especially desperately trying to mem the lvl 16 spells between pulls ....

Caranthir
6th August 2004, 11:57 AM
I think Unrest was my favourite. Memories of trips there with HoE when Tantala was in the mid teens, especially desperately trying to mem the lvl 16 spells between pulls ....

Heh, Caranthir spent 16-24 there. Back in the days when people lined up along the walls and pulled out of the house, no less. He got level 19 nine times there.

EricStratton
6th August 2004, 12:01 PM
I think Unrest was my favourite. Memories of trips there with HoE when Tantala was in the mid teens, especially desperately trying to mem the lvl 16 spells between pulls ....
Hell yeah! I completely agree. I had the absolute best times hanging out at the back of the house in Unrest while Greebs would run in and pull out some baddies. I still have some screen shots of us in Unrest taking out the ghost of that dwarf...guy. I gotta get those up some time.

Shiz
6th August 2004, 12:11 PM
Unrest was where LoW really cut our teeth on working together well. That is also where we first met our non-EQ Stratics guildmembers Quervo and Drixane.

Raveneye
6th August 2004, 12:14 PM
There was a point early on when Raveneye used to camp the bottom level in Befallen (back in the days when stuff from down there sold for decent plat). While waiting for various spawns to appear, I would usually run Raveneye's Rescue, a service free to any unfortunates who happened to fall down that darn well. Corpse dragging through Befallen was an art form with all the stupid stairs, twists and those irritating doors.

Sometimes for fun I would also pull things from various rooms to the outer hallway for lower level groups looking to get xp but not quite strong enough to survive past the first door. It was during one of these sessions that I saw my first ever spawning of that named mummy at the entrance that was camped nearly 24/7 (Gynoc or something?). That began a two month plus phase where Raveneye became addicted to "rare spawn safari hunting" and travelled the globe in search of such elusive prey as Rahotep (mummy in N. Ro), Dunedigger, the always popular Ancient Cyclops, King Xorbb (never did see him, but got rich waiting around, I suspect he may be a myth), Quillmane, Ekeros in Najena (monk quest guy if I remember right), all of the named Gnolls in South Karana, the named Sand Giant in Oasis (Cazel?), the Tarbul Earthstrider giant in East Karana, Equstrielle the unicorn, the named lizardman (Alliezsaur or something similar), Grimfeather,Lockjaw and many others. I wasn't strong enough to kill a few of these guys (like the AC) but I had quite a screenshot gallery going.

Raveneye
6th August 2004, 12:18 PM
Unrest was where LoW really cut our teeth on working together well. That is also where we first met our non-EQ Stratics guildmembers Quervo and Drixane.

I loved those nights in Unrest. Delving deep in with Greebo leading the way, or when we'd all just spend hours camping on the balcony pulling Reanimated Hands and other fun stuff.

Slainte's biggest ever train (at least that he lived through) was also courtesy of Unrest... :oops:

Greebo
6th August 2004, 12:22 PM
Ahh, Unrest. What more do I need to say? :)

Greebo
6th August 2004, 12:23 PM
Oh, I rememeber!

RUN! TRAIN! RUN FOR YOUR LIFE, WHATS BEHIND ME WILL EAT YOU!!!!

Asharad
6th August 2004, 12:31 PM
Yeah, Unrest remains my favorite spot in EQ.

Drax
6th August 2004, 12:47 PM
I remember the first time LoW raided Befallen. Was not only my first visit there, but was my first time to raid. Was quite fun, especially when I fell down the well and while the rest of LoW was trying to figure out how to come rescue me, I made my way back to them. Was a rewarding experience. :lol: Got a very rare compliment out of Masterful out of that, too. :lol::D

Y'know, it just occurred to me, but I think this may have set a precedent for me, tho' I really "Hate" to think what followed this... ;)

I love Unrest. Was the only zone where I could farm my own tradeskill components, protect the lowbies (and help out with LoW's reputation), and get some minor plat, all without serious fear of dying. :)

I have to say, tho', that my favorite two zones in the game do not include Unrest. ... Rather, they're Tower of Frozen Shadows (the best designed dungeon in EQ, imo) and Drunder, Fortress of Zek (aka Plane of Tactics). Both zones have great design, great mob population, requires some sound tactics, and are tre fun! :D :lol:

Draknor
6th August 2004, 12:51 PM
There was a point early on when Raveneye used to camp the bottom level in Befallen (back in the days when stuff from down there sold for decent plat). While waiting for various spawns to appear, I would usually run Raveneye's Rescue, a service free to any unfortunates who happened to fall down that darn well. Corpse dragging through Befallen was an art form with all the stupid stairs, twists and those irritating doors.

Sometimes for fun I would also pull things from various rooms to the outer hallway for lower level groups looking to get xp but not quite strong enough to survive past the first door. It was during one of these sessions that I saw my first ever spawning of that named mummy at the entrance that was camped nearly 24/7 (Gynoc or something?). That began a two month plus phase where Raveneye became addicted to "rare spawn safari hunting" and travelled the globe in search of such elusive prey as Rahotep (mummy in N. Ro), Dunedigger, the always popular Ancient Cyclops, King Xorbb (never did see him, but got rich waiting around, I suspect he may be a myth), Quillmane, Ekeros in Najena (monk quest guy if I remember right), all of the named Gnolls in South Karana, the named Sand Giant in Oasis (Cazel?), the Tarbul Earthstrider giant in East Karana, Equstrielle the unicorn, the named lizardman (Alliezsaur or something similar), Grimfeather,Lockjaw and many others. I wasn't strong enough to kill a few of these guys (like the AC) but I had quite a screenshot gallery going.

King Xorbb isn't a myth. I spent quite a bit of time in the gorge when I was in a moneymaking phase. He was an awful tough fight solo. I never did see the Ancient Cyclops, though. Someone was always waiting to kill it and did so quickly, I guess.

Asharad
6th August 2004, 12:55 PM
After four or five years of playing I have seen the AC one time.

ToFS IS an excellent, excellent zone Drax.

Caranthir
6th August 2004, 12:58 PM
After four or five years of playing I have seen the AC one time.

ToFS IS an excellent, excellent zone Drax.

I'm hoping the Obelisk of Lost Souls in EQ2 is reminiscent of ToFS.

Raveneye
6th August 2004, 01:20 PM
King Xorbb isn't a myth. I spent quite a bit of time in the gorge when I was in a moneymaking phase. He was an awful tough fight solo. I never did see the Ancient Cyclops, though. Someone was always waiting to kill it and did so quickly, I guess.

Heh, I actually got so curious after posting that list of "Everquest SNAP!" rare spawns that I went looking for proof of Xorbbs existance. Turns out no only was he real, there's actually two of him, on normal and one "Fabled" version slightly higher level that drops a quest item. It's impressive that you saw him Draknor, cause he was pretty much the only one in the early days (pre-Kunark) that people really were convinced didn't exist (well, except for Mayong Mistmoore, but that's another story).

I spent a lot of time in the gorge both as Raveneye on Brell and Slainte on Xev and never saw him, but I sure got a lot of PBBs and a ton of plat from the rather expensive loot (for their level) that the other eyes dropped. Next to giants in Rathe Mtns. it was pretty much the easiest money in EQ pre-expansions.

Yuglooc
6th August 2004, 01:31 PM
I've seen the Ancient Cyclops perhaps four times. The one time I actually had a shot at him, I lost out to a high level paladin with a Levitate clicky (this was the one in OoT).

As for my EQ II characters.... I haven't really decided what I'll be playing with the HoE/LoW group. I'm leaning towards a dark elf rogue or SK as my evil character, and a cleric (perhaps dwarf) as my good character. I'll play a ranger with my Xegony guild (dark-skinned halfling this time - as he was originally in the first game Yuglooc made his appearance).

Aalrahil
6th August 2004, 01:53 PM
King Xorbb isn't a myth.

I remember one time my group had been hunting in EK and had to flee because of Evil Eyes and people getting charmed, we zoned into the Gorge and were resting. I went AFK for like 10 seconds, came back and starting typing distractedly, and no one responded, then I looked around and saw everyone was dead, and there was King Xorbb! Scared the hell out of me.

Greebo
6th August 2004, 01:55 PM
I believe there was a skin for Mayong but that the servers had no script for loading him, he was only available to GMs as part of interactive quests.

Of course, interactive quests were usually ruined by the players, who tended to attack the quest characters they were supposed to be helping, so Mayong was never seen...

Draknor
6th August 2004, 01:59 PM
I think Xorbb drops the lens for the Staff of the Observers quest. I did get the drop once, and signed on the druid to loot it, but by then the staff was pretty much worthless as there were much better drops out there.

Being charmed by the buggers while in a group is actually amusing. I remember the hilarity that ensued, er, the tragic events in EK once when most of our group was charmed. Only Greebo and I survived, and that was because I ran screaming for the zone line. :D

EricStratton
6th August 2004, 02:27 PM
Here we go. Found some old pics and thanks to Ash's photobucket suggestion, I can post them.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/EricStratton/EQ000012.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/EricStratton/EQ000003.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/EricStratton/EQ000011.jpg\
What is behind him will EAT you!! :lol:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/EricStratton/efreeti.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/EricStratton/pat1.jpg
I took this one b/c Greebs (or someone) once said that I (in RL) look like him. You decide. :)

Aalrahil
6th August 2004, 02:29 PM
Of course, interactive quests were usually ruined by the players, who tended to attack the quest characters they were supposed to be helping, so Mayong was never seen...


Yeah, tell me about it. I much preferred when they had the guide program that let you have characters to just wander the world and roleplay, and encourage others to RP. I had a lot of fun doing that, and didn't have to worry about getting killed because I was basically a PC. Running the quests could be a nightmare.

Shiz
6th August 2004, 02:31 PM
Heh. That damn dwarf. Took my EMarr Ranger 27 rolls to finally get the boots.

Raveneye
6th August 2004, 02:50 PM
Man, that's one big dwarf! :wink:

I can't believe one of those shots shows Sinzer, who's legacy lives on to this day in our voting threads. Nice!

As for the Djinn resemblance, I see it, about a month at any Gold's Gym and enough Creotine and you could model the character for EQ2... :D

Sagar
6th August 2004, 03:26 PM
You just need to work on the glowing eye thing. :p

EricStratton
6th August 2004, 05:53 PM
Oh I have the body. It's just under some fat, that's all. :)

But yeah, the glowing eyes thing I need to work on. I figured sitting in front of a monitor for 2 days straight would do it but all they did was bleed. :oops:

Biaxin
7th August 2004, 10:26 AM
Hey,

Things are looking up, and I'm looking at Alienware and stuff. EQII is almost a certainty for me, though I might not make the open.

Since this is all supposed to happen in the earlies, EQ time, I'm almost driven to try to recreate the original Biaxin in all of his monkly glory (like Ash, I made B a warrior 'cuz we needed 'em). The dread Biaxin was wandering death, man, and I ain't foolin'. I came up with a pull technique for solo monks at the birdhouse in SKarana when I was hanging around the old Dojo site, that, last I checked (granted, probably over a year ago) was still in the archives at Monkly Business (which took over the monk site after Sensei pitched it) and was one of the first ten on the Tunare server to do the Treant Fist quest, and one of the youngest (and it made me quit doing quests that took more than, 'carry this from here to there', or, 'kill that guy and bring me a chunk'. Screw the Robes of the Whistling Fist, I wanted my fists to 'thud').

I fondly remember buying my first Tinkerer's Bag. You know, you didn't just run to the sto' and buy one of those. You had to get to the guy, first, and, then, be the kind of feller he'd sell it to (or able to fake it, like be invisible and stand behind him with one foot up in the air), and it cost a ton (for the times), and it had to be all in gold or something stupid like that. There were three or four ways to screw it up and, either, die, or lose 5k. A monk had to have the damn thing, though.

I need to see what I have to do to get that started up again.

[edit: Whoops! Not earlier, later in EQ time. In which case B would have to be a direct, but distant descendant of the original. Yeah, that works...]

leng
9th August 2004, 06:10 AM
Oh, I rememeber!

RUN! TRAIN! RUN FOR YOUR LIFE, WHATS BEHIND ME WILL EAT YOU!!!!

I remember that from Mistmoore. Greebs came screaming out with most of the zone on his tail !

Greebo
9th August 2004, 08:57 AM
Oh, I rememeber!

RUN! TRAIN! RUN FOR YOUR LIFE, WHATS BEHIND ME WILL EAT YOU!!!!

I remember that from Mistmoore. Greebs came screaming out with most of the zone on his tail !
Awww, someone remembered!

Yep, I first used that phrase when Reijas and I were exploring the inside of the castle and we picked up a train involving MOST of the interior.

Followed by all of the courtyard...

...and the graveyard...

...and I think I got 2 people killed with that train, despite my creative warning. :(

Raveneye
9th August 2004, 10:05 AM
I remember much fun in Mistmoore with LoW groups. It was always hard for a Barbarian with big feet like mine to keep from crossing Greebo's "imaginary line of no crossing upon pain of death". I can remeber being huddled together in one of the inner rooms with everyone yelling at each other not to back up, or touch a wall, or go near the steps...

...thankfully Shaman do what they do best standing perfectly still and occasionally snacking on themselves. :D

EricStratton
9th August 2004, 11:12 AM
I remember much fun in Mistmoore with LoW groups. It was always hard for a Barbarian with big feet like mine to keep from crossing Greebo's "imaginary line of no crossing upon pain of death". I can remeber being huddled together in one of the inner rooms with everyone yelling at each other not to back up, or touch a wall, or go near the steps...

...thankfully Shaman do what they do best standing perfectly still and occasionally snacking on themselves. :D
Oh man, I forgot about things aggro'ing thru walls. What a horrible PITA.

Reijas
9th August 2004, 02:40 PM
Oh, I rememeber!

RUN! TRAIN! RUN FOR YOUR LIFE, WHATS BEHIND ME WILL EAT YOU!!!!

I remember that from Mistmoore. Greebs came screaming out with most of the zone on his tail !
Awww, someone remembered!

Yep, I first used that phrase when Reijas and I were exploring the inside of the castle and we picked up a train involving MOST of the interior.

Followed by all of the courtyard...

...and the graveyard...

...and I think I got 2 people killed with that train, despite my creative warning. :(

Ahh the good ole' days :). Actually the first place that hotkey came from was when Sumadan was pulling Ugghrest for us and when he would get 203 ghouls he would go running for the zone line screaming :).

*sniffs* I miss the old days :(

DinbinFanfoom
10th August 2004, 12:27 PM
I remember him yelling stuff like this in Unrest a lot:

"Don't..." *SMACK* "help..." *CRUNCH* "me..." *WHAM* "Stay..." * BLAMMO* "back..."

*someone tosses a heal, group moves in and derails the train, Sumadan is rezzed*

"DAMMIT! WHEN I SAY DON'T HELP ME, I MEAN DON'T #)$&#)&$# HELP ME!"

:D

Greebo
10th August 2004, 12:55 PM
I remember him yelling stuff like this in Unrest a lot:

"Don't..." *SMACK* "help..." *CRUNCH* "me..." *WHAM* "Stay..." * BLAMMO* "back..."

*someone tosses a heal, group moves in and derails the train, Sumadan is rezzed*

"DAMMIT! WHEN I SAY DON'T HELP ME, I MEAN DON'T #)$&#)&$# HELP ME!"

:D
Group discipline is important!! :)

DinbinFanfoom
10th August 2004, 12:58 PM
Group discipline is important!! :)
You disciplined well. We didn't listen very well, quite often, I remember. Haha.

Greebo
10th August 2004, 01:19 PM
Group discipline is important!! :)
You disciplined well. We didn't listen very well, quite often, I remember. Haha.
You tell me this like I don't remember. :-D

DinbinFanfoom
10th August 2004, 01:33 PM
Haha, without a freaking doubt, the absolute Golden Age of my online gaming "career" and I'm sure I'm not deluded.

Well, mostly.

Raveneye
10th August 2004, 02:09 PM
I remember him yelling stuff like this in Unrest a lot:

"Don't..." *SMACK* "help..." *CRUNCH* "me..." *WHAM* "Stay..." * BLAMMO* "back..."

*someone tosses a heal, group moves in and derails the train, Sumadan is rezzed*

"DAMMIT! WHEN I SAY DON'T HELP ME, I MEAN DON'T #)$&#)&$# HELP ME!"

:D
Group discipline is important!! :)


I eventually got to the point where anytime I was grouped with one of Greebo's characters and he got attacked by something, I'd literally freeze for 15 seconds while I tried to figure out if it was OK to jump in. :?

Lycos
18th August 2004, 11:32 AM
It was Dusty Rose!!

Right. And I never wore a tree on my tunic. :lol:
And we didnt' have a shadowknight who wore pink, either.

Hey! It's faded salmon! That was my favorite shirt! :D

Biaxin
18th August 2004, 03:25 PM
Hey,

< scratches his hinder

Queed
20th August 2004, 04:58 PM
Erudite Enchanter, not sure about Coercer/Illusionist though. ( I understand that one is good and one is evil? Don't know enough to decide.)

And yes, I remember Unrest well, too. In fact, I remember when we first met Drixane. That and Befallen were really the last times that I actually managed to keep up with everyone in level. You know, before I... went even crazier.

Barrack
17th October 2004, 12:34 AM
Well, I figure i will be doing one of each of my major characters families from EQ1

Barack Stompinhopper; Dwarven Pali / Weaponsmith
[Something] Makitago; Gnomish Conjerer / Artisian
[Something] (either Haldor or Halden) Bearfriend; Human Druid or Ranger (not sure yet.)

And as my twist.
Sekerath [No Last Name]; Kerran Defiler (Sek's desendents take a walk on the evil side :) )