Group 6 now forming

[Quervo]

I am interested in running a new group. I will be basing this new game in the Forgotten Realms. It will be 4E rules, if it is in the Character Builder from Wizards it is valid.

All characters will use the following array 18,15,14,13,12,10. You will begin as first level characters living in the town of Loudwater.

Signup will be open to all. I will be allowing anyone not currently in a game who wishes to play priority status, and then it will be first come first serve for everyone else.

I will plan on closing sign up on Wensday Apr 29 and the game will begin Friday May 1. This should give everyone a chance to get characters build and ready to go.

Player 1: Shiz - Striker (Barbarian or Rogue)
Player 2: Greebo - Controller
Player 3: Zyzzyx - Leader?
Player 4: Ash -
Player 5: ES - Defender - Null, Warforged Sword & Board Fighter
Player 6: Dinbin - Wizard Controller

Existing player check list... Shiz 1st, Greebo 2nd,Zyzzyx 3rd, Ash 4th, ES as a 5th

[Shiz]

I am so in. Love FR.

I willing to play Striker or Controller.

[EricStratton]

Super tempting. I think I'm finally finding a groove in running Group 4 and keeping up w/ Group 3. If you need a 5th, I'll play.

[Greebo]

I'm also willing if there's room, and I'll vie for controller or defender.

[Shiz]

Do we get a FR background too? I re-visiting my barbarian build, so striker preference.

[Quervo]

Do we get a FR background too? I re-visiting my barbarian build, so striker preference.


You can take the Gray Vale background from FR or the basics from PHB2

[Greebo]

Only Gray Vale from FR?

[Quervo]

If you can give me a reason for a background from a different area and explain why you would be living in Loudwater go for it.

[Shiz]

I made an Invoker too, but I prefer my Barbarian.

[Zyzzyx]

I'm interested.

Do I need to know anything about Forgotten Realms? (I don't)


Right now I'm very much leaning towards a Warlord, race TBD.

[Greebo]

What about FR Specific languages - should we consider those? And any restrictions on which?

And what about Dragon magazine modifications to classes? For example, the Summoner Wizard build? (Although actually I think that's an Arcane Power feature now - Dragon was a preview IIRC)

And also - Arcane Power - yay or nay? Cause I could really go for a familiar that I constantly forget about like Varsuuvius in oots. ;)

[Quervo]

What about FR Specific languages - should we consider those? And any restrictions on which?

That is based on your character background, if you hail from a region different than the Grey Vale then you may select the language of that region. Standard starting restriction apply.

And what about Dragon magazine modifications to classes? For example, the Summoner Wizard build? (Although actually I think that's an Arcane Power feature now - Dragon was a preview IIRC)

And also - Arcane Power - yay or nay? Cause I could really go for a familiar that I constantly forget about like Varsuuvius in oots. ;)

Like I said before if it is in the Wizards builder you can play with it... That includes AP starting Tuesday with that update.

[Quervo]

I'm interested.

Do I need to know anything about Forgotten Realms? (I don't).


Not really, Realms is a really OLD world with many risen and fallen empires. It is a High Magic world that has recently suffered a major magical meltdown (to explain the new rules) due to the death of a god. If you are looking to thumb through a book the Forgotten Realms Players Guide is where all the newbie stuff would be found

[Greebo]

And you're basing this campaign in 4e FR, right? So - what about spellscarred?

[Quervo]

And you're basing this campaign in 4e FR, right? So - what about spellscarred?

just verified Spellscared is found in the CB, so yes

[Asharad]

I'll play if you need to fill out the group, but I really encourage others who aren't playing to get involved. It's fun!

[Zyzzyx]

Aye, what he said. Would definitely like to give the option to folks who aren't doing PBP yet.

[Shiz]

I'll play if you need to fill out the group, but I really encourage others who aren't playing to get involved. It's fun!

You know you want to try your warden idea!

[Greebo]

Ditto that - I'll defer to anyone not already active.

[Quervo]

Unless someone pipes up that is not already in a game, it looks like we have 5.

If you guys want to put character ideas together that is fine. I dont want to block anyone who may be interested and is not in a game yet so signup is still open and i will fill out the group following the list of who posted intrest first.

[EricStratton]

Having played a Wizard (in atty's) and a Warlock (in Sagar's) I'm interested in playing a melee'er. I was thinking a warforged fighter. Be a, almost literally, tank.

[Shiz]

Cool. I recommend a shield spec. There are lots of cool hard core defender builds at the wizards forums.

[DinbinFanfoom]

Someone should invite Isala/Sarlon, so she can get a feel for 4e without having to DM it. :P

[Zyzzyx]

Much in the style of a gnome warrior in ol' EQ, I'm thinking of going Halfling Warlord.


*nod*

[EricStratton]

Someone should invite Isala/Sarlon, so she can get a feel for 4e without having to DM it. :P
Good idea. She seemed pretty adamant about not getting into 4e but it couldn't hurt. I'll PM her. She can have my spot if she accepts.

[EricStratton]

First build attempt. Picked the Military Background. Still working on the actual story of his background, tho.

Yes, his name is Null. For now, at least. I might change it.

[Greebo]

Waiting on the character builder update tomorrow for arcane power updates.

[Shiz]

I also rolled a pretty cool rogue tonight, too, if someone thinks we need one but isn't sure they want to play one. A rigue excels best with a controller int he group so I will see what everyone else does for characters before I pick,

[DinbinFanfoom]

I suggest "d'Void" as a last name, ES? :P

[Greebo]

If you go with Null d'Void then I want to be Zero. Zero Length.

[DinbinFanfoom]

I'll roll up a controller if there is still a slot and Sarlon isn't in.

[Greebo]

I'm also willing if there's room, and I'll vie for controller or defender.

I'll roll up a controller if there is still a slot and Sarlon isn't in.

So...we'll have 2 controllers?

[EricStratton]

I was thinking of d'Ev Null for the full name. ;)

Seriously, Null is one of the example names in the Warforged design doc (Dragon #364). I thought it was too good to pass on.

[DinbinFanfoom]

So...we'll have 2 controllers?
Oh, woops. Missed that. Thought you still needed one.

[Greebo]

Oh, woops. Missed that. Thought you still needed one.

I'm ok with either controller or defender, seriously - I'd just gotten my head into controller builds already. If you really want to do one, I'll do defender, or leader if we're still missing one.

[Shiz]

Greebs, go controller. Din, I didn't think you were in. Zyzz, are you still thinking Warlord?

[DinbinFanfoom]

I'm ok with either controller or defender, seriously - I'd just gotten my head into controller builds already. If you really want to do one, I'll do defender, or leader if we're still missing one.I was thinking controller because I didn't want to do another "defender" (Brun is kind of that role, though she plays it fairly offensively). I'll defer to you though. If you DO go defender, email me your controller build, and I'll look it over... I'm totally new to them and anything other than the fighter, actually. :P I think I was looking at something based around a "star" keyword... (as opposed to "fey" and the other one, whatever that was...) it seemed to be more charm/sleep oriented and something we didn't have in the other groups. "Beguiler" maybe?

[Greebo]

I was giving serious thought to Wizard Summoner build (arcane power). That's more offensive, though, and Wizard Illusionist is kinda right up the old Enchanter ally from what I'm reading so far.

[Quervo]

I opened up a sixth slot for din... NO ONE other than current players has mentioned intrest or even pm'd me asking questions. So I will just go with what we got. I am wraping this up unless someone not in a game shows up before we start.

If they do you guys can roll off low number is out...

[DinbinFanfoom]

If six is too many, I can bow out.

[Quervo]

nah it is working well in ES's group... I will just have to add just a hair to the encounters.

[GravenStone]

So when did AD&D resort to Champions archetypes?

[Greebo]

I'm not familiar with Champions - but 4e introduced the formalization of the roles. They've always existed to some degree, of course.

[GravenStone]

Just a very similar layout to superhero themed games - Ranged damage, melee damage, controllers/CC, tanks/defenders, healers.

[Shiz]

Since we have a defender and at least one controller, then I am going striker. Whether it is a Barbarian or a rogue will depend. Both are ready to go for the most part.

Damelon is a human Brutal Scoundrel Rogue with double-sword proficiency (+1 AC, d8 dmg dice and ability to take heavy blade AND light blade feats). Brutal Scoundrel means he adds is str bonus (+3) to sneak attack damage. This guy will wtfpwn if can get targets dazed, prone, etc.

Shatter is an earthsoul genasi Rageblood Barbarian/Warlord with a maul. Just because I am MCing Warlord does not mean we don't need a leader, though. I can only heal once a day. His racial power is a close burst 1 that knocks targets prone.

[Shiz]

If six is too many, I can bow out.

Q already said it was ok, but I think the PnP format can handle more players easier if all the players make detailed posts. More people means more updates. It also means longer round resolution for the DM, but we are only getting 1-2 rounds a day sometimes anyway.

[Shiz]

Just a very similar layout to superhero themed games - Ranged damage, melee damage, controllers/CC, tanks/defenders, healers.

Healers have fun too, though. The EQ1 Healer is gone forever I hope.

[Greebo]

Just a very similar layout to superhero themed games - Ranged damage, melee damage, controllers/CC, tanks/defenders, healers.

So similar to every other MMO too - DPS (striker - ranged and/or melee); CC; Tank; Healer. D&D makes no distinction in strikers for ranged vs. melee, its just DPS. Or -- DPR - dmg per round.

[Greebo]

So: Din = controller. Do we have a leader?

[DinbinFanfoom]

So: Din = controller. Do we have a leader?
If that's OK. I assumed we needed one and didn't have one. I've posted my (pre-emptive) character post in Quervo's forum. Please critique here. I've never played anything but a fighter, and so will likely screw up at times.

[Greebo]

If that's OK. I assumed we needed one and didn't have one.

I'm ok with either controller or defender, seriously - I'd just gotten my head into controller builds already. If you really want to do one, I'll do defender, or leader if we're still missing one.

Asked and answered.

[Asharad]

What are we needing?

A healer type? Something else?

[Shiz]

We need a leader (bard, warlord, cleric) and another striker, probably. Or a defender/striker might be nice. Like a dps fighter build - tempest two weapon fighter? We might be AE light as well.

[Greebo]

I'm willing to go leader, but I'm thinking of Shaman.

I'd go Artificer (my RPGA character) but I suspect that, being an Eberron class, will be disallowed in FR.

[Asharad]

I am a fan of strikers but have never played a healer type and Greebo's group is showing that some healing is often nice.

[Zyzzyx]

I'm still leaning towards a halfling warlord. Been looking ahead at some of the powers, they're... unique. An interesting combination of doing some damage, cheering on the team, letting others attack instead, and moving folks around.

[EricStratton]

Got a reply back from Sarlon and she's not interested.

[Shiz]

Defender and Controller are rolled and done. As long as we get one leader, then the rest of the party can be whatever.

[Greebo]

We've got the 4 bases covered already:
Player 1: Shiz - Striker (Barbarian or Rogue)
Player 2: Greebo -
Player 3: Zyzzyx - Leader?
Player 4: Ash -
Player 5: ES - Defender - Null, Warforged Sword & Board Fighter
Player 6: Dinbin - Controller

So at this point, ash, whatever we pick just adds to our build overall.

So I say we each just pick whatever the **** we want! :D

[Greebo]

I'm still leaning towards a halfling warlord. Been looking ahead at some of the powers, they're... unique. An interesting combination of doing some damage, cheering on the team, letting others attack instead, and moving folks around.

Go for it.

[Shiz]

I will pick based on what Greebs and Ash do. You guys can go nuts. No reason we cannot have 2 of one class. Your summoner idea sounds cool, Greebs. I would love to see one in action.

From a min-max point of view, we are still lacking radiant dmg, i.e. undead killers. Radiant-using striker = Avenger, but at this point just play what you want. I am really torn so I am just waiting to plug the best striker into the mix.

[Zyzzyx]

Defender and Controller are rolled and done. As long as we get one leader, then the rest of the party can be whatever.

OK... in DM-Sagar's group... who fits the Leader role?

Brun - defender
Bal - defender (or is pallie considered a leader?)
Fan - striker
Am - striker
Sol - controller
Tra - healer/striker?

[Shiz]

Trask. Leader = healing abilities and buffs.

Pally is all Defender. Anyone who can mark is a Defender.

[Greebo]

And Leaders in 4e are not like old school clerics of 3e and before. Healing in 4e means you allow someone else to use a surge, and its a minor action, so you still get to engage in the real combat too.

My artificer in RPGA has some nifty at-wills that grant boosts to AC or boosts to damage of an enemy, for example. Fighters love me for the AC+1 Thunderwave Armor (ac+1 to ally, enemy takes damage and is pushed from the ally)

[Quervo]

Artificer is approved

[DinbinFanfoom]

Quervo: Are you allowing bonuses via character backgrounds? If so, I was thinking of having Fia come from a privileged family, dispite her race. Likely dad was a very influential businessman in some minor town (big fish, small pond), and that status held most of the issues with being half-elven at bay... there will be lots of people (say, at school) talking about her heritage behind her back, but they'd never say that to her face... she's got a bit of a chip on her shoulder about that... and would be angry with anyone who said she was anything other than a "princess" Born of the privilege that comes with wealth, she'll act entitled and a bit bratty, and not averse to using her charms. A straight-A student, she's a quick study, if a bit bored with the "mundane".

Possible bonuses: either to history or some related skill that an minor aristocrat might have... or to her gold income, or something (trust fund?) which could be usefulf or ritual components. :P Let me know what, if any you feel appropriate.

[Quervo]

if you have the PHB2 it lists backgrounds for you... let me take a look and I will list a couple...

[Greebo]

Artificer is approved

Ok, then Branhak, Dwarven Artificer, will be posted tonight.

You guys will like him. He makes magical doo dads that do lots of fun stuff! :D

[Asharad]

I am leaning towards an avenger but am also considering a cleric or barbarian.

The healing really does come in somewhat handy. Do any of our other party members at this point have any healing at all?

[Quervo]

With these you can pick one of the following benifits. If you use the character builder it will help you pick something. or you can pick one from the Forgotten realms book.. You are starting in the area called Grey Vale
✦ Gain a +2 bonus to checks with a skill associated
with your background.
✦ Add a skill associated with your background
to your class?s skills list before you choose your
trained skills.
✦ Choose one language connected to your background.
You can speak, read, and write that
language fluently.


Wealthy:
You grew up rich, never wanting for
anything. What was the source of this wealth? Was it
inherited, or did your family work for its riches? Was
it obtained legitimately, or through underhanded
methods? What kind of home did you live in? Was
there ever a time when you knew what it was like to
be hungry or desperate?
Associated Skill:

History
Noble:

You are a member of the aristocracy. Does
your family have a noble rank? Are you the heir to a
title, and if so, how many people stand between you
and that title? Under what circumstances did you
become an adventurer?
Associated Skills: Diplomacy, Insight

Merchant:

You were engaged in the buying and
selling of goods. What kinds of goods did you buy or
sell? Were you an honest merchant, or did you take
advantage of your customers? Did you or your family
own the business, or did you work for someone else?
Did you travel, or did you work at a shop or inn?
Associated Skills: Bluff, Diplomacy

[Zyzzyx]

Warlord has some healing ability (allow allies to spend surges), but I don't think to quite the level that a true cleric does.

[DinbinFanfoom]

if you have the PHB2 it lists backgrounds for you... let me take a look and I will list a couple...I do, and I've read them, but since (I understand) backgrounds are very much RP-based kinda, final word is up to the DM what bonuses get applied. Given a priveleged background, I was letting you choose what sorts of bonuses would be allowed... Sorry for the confusion.

[Asharad]

Warlord has some healing ability (allow allies to spend surges), but I don't think to quite the level that a true cleric does.


As I understand it, that is pretty much what a cleric does as well.


I think I'm going to try an avenger.

[Asharad]

Sorry, a bit confused.

Are we using the forgotten realms backgrounds from the character builder?

[Quervo]

I do, and I've read them, but since (I understand) backgrounds are very much RP-based kinda, final word is up to the DM what bonuses get applied. Given a priveleged background, I was letting you choose what sorts of bonuses would be allowed... Sorry for the confusion.


n/p, you can pick... but no to extra cash upfront.

For Noble I could allow a "Favor" type thing... useable once a level, d20 +1/2 level check vs a dc set on the favor being called in.

example

Calling a favor from a friend to allow you to stay at his manor for a few days... dc 10
getting the same friend to vouch for you to the magistrate after comitting murder... dc 40

[DinbinFanfoom]

For Noble I could allow a "Favor" type thing... useable once a level, d20 + 1/2 level check vs a dc set on the favor being called in.

example

Calling a favor from a friend to allow you to stay at his manor for a few days... dc 10
getting the same friend to vouch for you to the magistrate after comitting murder... dc 40
Though very situational, that one is pretty fun sounding, and would provide a lot of flavour, which I see "background" to be for, not so much daily game-play.

[Quervo]

if you do the noble ... dont pick it in the builder, just add it as a note calling it noble favor so i will know.

[DinbinFanfoom]

Did so, it's in the background section of the BIO. I didn't use the wizards builder, but another one. I think it's all kosher, though.

[Shiz]

Sorry, a bit confused.

Are we using the forgotten realms backgrounds from the character builder?

You need to make a case for any background other than Gray Vale, but Quervo is reasonable about it. If not GV, then you need a story about how your character came to the backwater that is Loudwater.

If you are thinking Avenger or Barb, then I will committ to Rogue. I love the human extra at-will with my build but I am nervous about not having low-light vision.

[DinbinFanfoom]

You need to make a case for any background other than Gray Vale, but Quervo is reasonable about it. If not GV, then you need a story about how your character came to the backwater that is Loudwater.

If you are thinking Avenger or Barb, then I will committ to Rogue. I love the human extra at-will with my build but I am nervous about not having low-light vision.
Oof, missed that, but should be easy enough. Anyone got a link to the Gray Vale / Loudwater info?

[Shiz]

The Gray Vale background gives you the option to train in Nature and +2 Nature check regardless of whether or not you train it. I think.

[Quervo]

Beneath the mysterious Star Mounts, at the southern
edge of the ancient High Forest, the Gray Vale
straddles the river Delimbiyr in the North. A prosperous
region thanks to river traffic, merchant caravans
from distant lands, and other travelers looking for
treasure amid the wreckage of lost kingdoms, Gray
Vale is a land ripe for adventure.


GRAY VALE REGIONAL BENEFIT
You gain one additional language of your choice, you
add Nature to your class skill list, and you gain a +2
bonus to Nature checks.

Common Knowledge
Gray Vale has grown into a trade center in the North
in large part due to the success of Loudwater. This
small town has an advantageous location at the
confluence of the Delimbiyr and Grayflow rivers.
Rich and arable farmland enables the community to
thrive. Most merchants in the vicinity use the river to
transport goods, making Loudwater an ideal nexus
for nearly all commerce in this part of the world.
Although Loudwater and other small settlements
enjoy some prosperity, the threat of danger checks
their growth. Displaced savages from beyond the
High Forest are a constant peril. Goblins infest the
Southwood, snatching cattle, supplies, and the occasional
child before retreating to the dim shelter of
their foreboding forest. Whispers of Najaran serpentfolk
fill the taprooms as locals peer suspiciously at
strangers, ever watchful for these sinister infiltrators.
All of these dangers and more cast a pall of fear and
mistrust over Gray Vale.

[Greebo]

It's Gray Vale (or persuade you to allow another) OR PHB2 background, not and, right?

[DinbinFanfoom]

Yeah, I misunderstood that. I'll fix it. The GV stuff doesn't fit my char anyway.

[Quervo]

It's Gray Vale (or persuade you to allow another) OR PHB2 background, not and, right?


Yeah... it isnt that hard to persuade me... just need a decent reason for being from a different area...

[DinbinFanfoom]

I've removed the GV stuff, and added training and +2 to history (moving my other training from history to nature), so it almost resulted in the same stats. :P

[Asharad]

I'm a shifter named Sundowner who has a gigantic sword....I'm just letting you guys know that I am definitely the Wolverine of our team. I'm the one all the kids are going to love and who is going to get a spin-off.

Just so nobody is shocked or hurt later when that happens.

[Zyzzyx]

I'm a shifter named Sundowner who has a gigantic sword....I'm just letting you guys know that I am definitely the Wolverine of our team. I'm the one all the kids are going to love and who is going to get a spin-off.

Just so nobody is shocked or hurt later when that happens.

*sniff sniff*

I smell a Fandango. ;)

[Greebo]

Sonny you may have a giant sword, and I've no doubt the kiddies will think it coooool - but I mix magic and art to come up with objects to fascinate and delight while taking down our enemies. These are tools that aren't just good for killin bad guys, they're fun for the whole family!

You can be Wolverine, sonny - but I'm bloody Batman, I am.

[DinbinFanfoom]

I'm just letting you guys know that I am definitely the Wolverine of our team.
You can be Wolverine, sonny - but I'm bloody Batman, I am.
Fia rolls her eyes.
"Would you two GROW UP? Do you think you are living in some kind of children's fantasy world or something? Get real."

[Shiz]

I don't know what superhero I am but a Doublesword probably means a small penis.

[Greebo]

I don't know what superhero I am but a Doublesword probably means a small penis.
We'll just call you Little Dick, then.

[EricStratton]

I am Null. I'm a robot. I think there's little doubt who the kids will find the coolest.

[Greebo]

I am Null. I'm a robot. I think there's little doubt who the kids will find the coolest.

Right, so we've got Wolverine, Batman, Little Dick, and Dickless. Oh and Nanny Fia.

[DinbinFanfoom]

Right, so we've got Wolverine, Batman, Little Dick, and Dickless. Oh and Nanny Fia."Laaaaame!"

[Zyzzyx]

Yeah, but the cute lil' halfling is gonna get all the chicks, so just don't bother trying.

[Greebo]

"Laaaaame!"

What's a matter, Nanny? Don't like your name?

[DinbinFanfoom]

What's a matter, Nanny? Don't like your name?
*talk to hand gesture*

[Greebo]

Wow, you're not a very good role model!

[Shiz]

I prefer Double Dick!

[DinbinFanfoom]

I swapped around a few of my stats. Doesn't make a huge difference initially (3 less HP, +1 to init & AC) but will help out a few of my powers, especially after an ability increment.

Geez, I knew wizards were "squishy" but, oy. I'm downright tender. 22 HP, 14 AC, 12 Fort, 14 Ref, 15 Wil. :eek!:

[Greebo]

I prefer Double Dick!

I think we saw that movie... :twisted:

[Shiz]

I swapped around a few of my stats. Doesn't make a huge difference initially (3 less HP, +1 to init & AC) but will help out a few of my powers, especially after an ability increment.

Geez, I knew wizards were "squishy" but, oy. I'm downright tender. 22 HP, 14 AC, 12 Fort, 14 Ref, 15 Wil. :eek!:

There will be a lot of attention elsewhere, don't ya worry, hon.

[Quervo]

Just waiting for Z's toon and we can get started...

[Greebo]

Bad Z! Naughty Z!

[DinbinFanfoom]

Yeah, I hope we can get started soon, as I will be AFK Saturday and Sunday.

[Lycos]

Yeah, I hope we can get started soon, as I will be AFK Saturday and Sunday.

Ooooo, I have a chance in catching up with you this weekend in WoW? :D

[Greebo]

Ooooo, I have a chance in catching up with you this weekend in WoW? :D

Not on Sunday you don't.

[Lycos]

Not on Sunday you don't.

Not during the day. But I'll still have the evening. :D

[DinbinFanfoom]

You probably will, if only because I won't get any more XP after I ding 80. :P

[DinbinFanfoom]

Argh. I think I *STILL* had my stats screwed up. When I swapped them around before, I forgot about two being anchored by the half-elven thing. I think it's straight now. +2 to CON, CHA, Insight and Diplomacy. Dig that diplo score. The [bg] signifies the +2 provided by background.

STR 12 +1/+1 (base/full) (Athletics +1)
CON 12[he] +1/+1 (+4 HP/lvl (Endurance +1)
DEX 13 +1/+1 (Acrobatics +1, Stealth +1, Thievery +1)
INT 18 +4/+4 (Arcana +9, History +9, Religion +4)
WIS 15 +2/+2 (Dungeoneering +2, Perception +2, Nature +2, Insight +9[he], Heal +2)
CHA 16[he] +3/+3 (Intimidate +3, Bluff +3, Diplomacy +12[bg][he], Streetwise +3)

[Shiz]

You can MC a little Bard with that build.

[DinbinFanfoom]

You can MC a little Bard with that build.
I can be a band with it's own pyrotechnics built-in. Plus it kinda makes sense given Mom was a rolling stone.

[EricStratton]

Just download the character builder and put it all into that. Hard to mess up that way.

[Shiz]

Character Builder is not free. The full version, anyway. The free version is only the basic books, I think.

[Greebo]

Demo Version
A new Demo version will be posted with all content up through Player’s Handbook 2. For those who haven’t yet subscribed, you will be able to create characters from levels 1 to 3 using all Classes from both Player’s Handbook 1 and Player’s Handbook 2. If you have the previous Demo already installed, you will need to uninstall it and download the new version. There is no update process to update the old demo to the new demo.

Posted yesterday.

[Shiz]

You can MC a little Bard with that build.

And just to quote myself, I am not sure we need more Leader-ish stuff anyway. The level 2 feat is an important one because there are no more feats until 4.

[Zyzzyx]

Free version of the character builder has PHB2, Arcane, and Martial. Was using it last night, looking at the extra warlord goodies not in PHB1.


I was leaning towards using the 18 for my INT, 15 for STR. (hey, I'm a halfling!) But then looking at the powers, everything is STR vs AC. Seems like a 15 STR would be a bit... limiting. So, the 18 is going for STR, or I may change races altogether. Either way, I'll finish it tonight.

[Greebo]

Was just gonna say that I reinstalled the latest build of demo CC and it's up to date.

[Shiz]

Free version of the character builder has PHB2, Arcane, and Martial. Was using it last night, looking at the extra warlord goodies not in PHB1.


I was leaning towards using the 18 for my INT, 15 for STR. (hey, I'm a halfling!) But then looking at the powers, everything is STR vs AC. Seems like a 15 STR would be a bit... limiting. So, the 18 is going for STR, or I may change races altogether. Either way, I'll finish it tonight.

17 min in STR and INT if you want to be reliably effective. Personally, I would put the 18 in STR and then pick a fun race with an INT mod. Human is also an excellent choice just due to the extra at-will alone. The extra feat should probably not be spent on an exotic weapon prof, but Weapon Expertise is always a must have.

[DinbinFanfoom]

One last swap (cha/wis) and ran it through the CC to be sure it was all kosher. Should be fine now. Wanted wis to be an uneven number so it can "ding" at the first stat upgrade it gets.

[EricStratton]

17 min in STR and INT if you want to be reliably effective. Personally, I would put the 18 in STR and then pick a fun race with an INT mod. Human is also an excellent choice just due to the extra at-will alone. The extra feat should probably not be spent on an exotic weapon prof, but Weapon Expertise is always a must have.
I rolled a human for giggles yesterday. I definitely like the extra choices you get as a human.

[Zyzzyx]

Took a look at human, but it was just... well, human.

Settled on dragonborn. Thought seriously about gnome, real serious, but it didn't feel right.


Does the CC have an export to text feature that I'm not seeing? I used the Pathguy page for putting it together, along with the CC.

[Greebo]

The "summary" section under Manage.

[Shiz]

Just cut and paste the summary.

[Lycos]

I'd just like to say that I have this image of Greebo's character doing the Han Solo thing on every encounter.

"Engage Hyperdrive!"

gadget #1 goes *wha wha wha wha*

"#^&!&*#*#^"

In a panicky voice, "Chewy, I thought you said you fixed the hyperdrive!"

*roar*

:mrgreen:

[Greebo]

Nonsense. I'm Batman!

[Quervo]

Yeah a broke getto Batman...

Off to second Dr apt

[Greebo]

Yeah a broke getto Batman...

Off to second Dr apt

You stay out of this! You're just Ghod!

[GravenStone]

Why would Ghod need a spaceship anyway?

[Zyzzyx]

Character info posted, final number tweaks done.

Might put a background in, not sure...