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Erudite
22nd June 2006, 09:41 AM
Well, that kinda sucked.

Xellany and Destrid attempted to help Knemo through the Aurora Glade mission last night, with no luck in two attempts. We probably could have done the mission proper, but we were trying for the bonus as well.

The first failure was my fault. I swapped Destrid's skillset out for a hydromancer build, wanting to bring snares along to help handle the White Mantle's crystal runners. Effective in that regard, in that the runners were reduced to a slow crawl, but water magic has a severe damage output defecit, little in the way of AE damage, and no spike damage potential at all. So we got overwhelmed and lost.

Switched back to a fire build for the second go, and we did much better. We took out the first runner, and some White Mantle casters obligingly held up the rest of the Mantle's first group at the corner, letting me sink Incendiary Bonds on them, followed up with Meteor. That spiked the whoe group for ~230 damage and knocked them all down, giving me time to lay a fireball on top of that for another ~100ish points. The second Mantle group came in, though, and we started to have some problems when Knemo went down.

We got into the last group before Xellany finally bought it (she was the last one left alive, and had swapped rez for a speed skill as our designated runner). I think there's room to play with things - I had one skill slot (Heal Other) I barely used and another (Rebirth) I didn't use at all because of it's cast time and minimal recovery value in a fast-paced fight like last night. I could have/should have just put the rez signet in, which would have brough Knemo back into the fight at full strength almost immediately. His minions would have helped A LOT. Maybe a standard rez or defensive skill in the other slot. Dunno. Doable, though - just take some tuning is all.

Raveneye
22nd June 2006, 10:22 AM
Sounds like you guys needed one more real live person last night. Sorry I didn't make it, I got hung up trying to plan out the next couple of months worth of family stuff with the wife, then got a phone call, then was too tired to log on to the PC so I went to bed early.

I'll be on tonight for the normal Thursday run if everyone wants to try Aurora Glade again for Atty.

attriel
22nd June 2006, 10:35 AM
Another part of the problem, and what whacked me so efficiently, was that all the minions (two fighters and a healer) ran back with Xellany to get the crystal.

Which somehow left me tanking. Necro's don't tank, man. necro pets tank, but something has to die first! SOMETHING THAT ISNT ME! :o

I had a rez skill up ... except, those don't work so well when you're the dead one (I'm used to having to res my healer in big fights since i do a lot of minion-only missions)

I'll get through that mission eventually ! (not that i'll try to talk people out of helping tonight if they really want to; i can't do it minion only)

Onnie
22nd June 2006, 12:44 PM
Yes those dang friggen hencies. What the heck IS the AI thinking?

You've got not just one, but TWO PC crits engaged in combat AND the leader (who they are supposed to follow) engaged. Now George following I understand. Sometimes the target I had hit him off to stay on while I ran off for another crystal was dead. Of course he's going to coming running to me or with me. And while carrying I can't reset him to attack. My hands have to be empty unless I get attacked directly. But the hencies part following me makes zero sense. I'm just thinking of this from a X = This is True therefore = This computer stand point.

Leader attack = True
Leader Casting attack = True
Leader follow for attack = True
Leader health above 0 = True

I mean, what has been thrown in there that says, Oh and blow all that regular normal behavior off and just follow Xell... WHEEE!

I'm up for trying again tonight :) I couldn't of handled 7 and kept up with the last one runner. My only attack spell was health Neg. Everything was set around slow and speed. Speed doesn't keep up for long enough and regens sloowwww...

--Onnie

Kiir
22nd June 2006, 02:43 PM
Unfortunately I was in the middle of a mission when you started this. That being said Anoe is up for helping next time.

Tried the Arborstone mission twice last night unfortunately we failed both times, the second time we failed at the last area due to one of our warriors and monks having gone link dead in the mission, which really really really sucked.

Also ran my necro, warrior and monk around a bit doing various quests.